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 Posted: 23:24 - 02 May 2016 Post subject: Re: Passed CBT last week |
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| Jaymz1975 wrote: | I don't believe you cover this until full license |
It's not required for the tests, so isn't going to be taught except accidentally.
First thing, decide whether it's worth it. There are very few places on my commute where it's worthwhile, since the limiting factor is red lights. Unless you can beat a cycle, being first in the queue at the next red gains you nothing except Man Points, a longer wait, and the ire of other road users.
Second, be super paranoid. Expect cars stuck in traffic to turn into side streets or driveways, or U- turn without indicating or looking. Doors will be opened, pedestrians will cross without looking, pedalists will change lanes in front of you on the assumption that nothing faster will be coming through. Slow progress is better than a trip in an ambulance. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Plus, no motorway training, no pillion training. We have a very peculiar training and test regime. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Don't copy/follow other bikes, they're normally either braver/stupider or going for a gap which won't be there for you. Rogerborg makes a good point, personally if I know I can make it through the lights I don't bother filtering, it's just a lot of risk for very little reward.
One area to be particularly careful is filtering through the middle (of two queues of traffic). Unless you've seen the lights turn red you might not have time to get to the front, and also don't put yourself in a situation where you need a vehicle to either move or not move, that's how you get your feet run over or a mirror clattering your head.
I never really understood filtering until I went for a ride with an experienced friend, he just seemed to be effortlessly timing everything right and slotting back in at the right time.
Also I've noticed cagers tend to get a little less pi$$ed off if you slot in a few places back* (where there's room), rather than filtering to the front where the first car tries to beat you off the line
*Except the Merc' on my way home tonight, that tried to get back past me, then when he couldn't aggressively tailgated me. I filtered to get away from him at the next set of lights  |
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| M.C wrote: | Also I've noticed cagers tend to get a little less pi$$ed off if you slot in a few places back* (where there's room), rather than filtering to the front where the first car tries to beat you off the line  |
One of the advantages of a bigger bike (and in this I class the Enfield as a smaller bike) is that you don't need to dangle yourself out way in front of them. I wouldn't want several car lengths back, but I do like to roll slowly up to behind the door pillar then blow through when the lights change. You're getting out in front either way, there's no sense in giving them time to get steamed up about your illegal queue jumping.
(Different rules in That London or other bike heavy locales, I'm talking about routes where bikes are relatively few and far between). ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Congrats on the pass Best advice I've got is to build it up slowly until you get confident. Practice by filtering when there's only a few cars and you've got an easy out if you bugger it up. Also, sitting in between lanes is usually fine at lights if everyone is going in a straight line (probably won't die) but don't do it on a roundabout unless you know you can make it out before anyone else and get into one of the lanes as they're often not clearly marked.
It's all about the experience building though. Once you're comfortable with it you'll be fine and it'll make you a better rider because you'll become more aware of other traffic and its intentions. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 9 years, 340 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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