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| Im-a-Ridah wrote: | Tony Blair, David Cameron, Ken Clarke, Ed Miliband, the IMF, the ECB, the EU, the BoE, the Civil Service departments, all the people who rule over you like the disposable serf you are agree.... vote in! |
That is exactly the argument Putin will do. All I hear from leave campaign is this:
А у вас негров линчуют
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_you_are_lynching_Negroes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
Means two wrongs does not make one right.
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The problem is that you trust one that you think is wrong, but not another that you think is wrong. It's not a question of "two wrongs don't make a right", but rather of why your logic is non-causal. |
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| Posted: 00:27 - 24 May 2016 Post subject: Re: Obama about Trump (and Boris Johsnon + Nigel Farage) |
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| Val wrote: | Obama about Trump (and Boris Johnson + Nigel Farage about Brexit for that matter too): | Obama wrote: | Ignorance is not a virtue. It's not cool to not know what you are talking about. |
Do tell when was the last time you heard Boris getting single fact right. Tis the guy that leads you to Brexit. I rest my case  |
Quite a few people have informed themselves and made their own minds up about Brexit'ing, without listening to Boris n' co. Theres a lot of good arguements; on both sides. I'm probably fairly "left wing" and "liberal" by most peoples standards and I detest Trump, Johnson and Farage - but i'm still voting (ha, like it matters) for Brexit.
"Boris" might be leading Brexit in some ways, but "Cameron" is leading Remain - its a case of voting for clusterfucks or thundercunts if you're following anyones lead.
In your video, Obama also makes another statement thats quite ironic. | Barack Obama wrote: | when our leaders express a disdain for facts, when they're not held accountable, for repeating falsehoods and just making stuff up, while actual experts are dismissed as elitists, then we've got a problem. |
People are sick of being lied to; hence the turbulence in the EU and US - politics, finance, trade, security, immigration etc... The Chilcot Inquiry is a prime example - if people are treated like idiots, they might start voting like idiots to make a point sooner or later.
People are still being lied to about the referendum for the most part - there are very few facts, despite what the news reports; just lots of predictions, estimates, and doomsday tales from both sides. For either side to sit there patronising and insulting the other for being "ignorant" and "misleading" is hypocrisy at its finest.
A seperate quote from Obama thats equally ironic. | Barack Obama wrote: | Issues are never simple. One thing I'm proud of is that very rarely will you hear me simplify the issues. |
I'm assuming the "very rarely" was sarcastic. |
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