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photonic
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PostPosted: 07:26 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: CBT riding on the motorway Reply with quote

I am a provisional rider, with a 125cc varadero (been riding for nearly 10 years) and was wondering what the chances are of being caught on the motorway? (with L plates deliberately removed).

The normal route I travel involved a lot of stopping, starting and was hoping to take the bike on the motorway for once to shorten the journey.

I know it would invalidate my insurance, but I have passed my theory test and I am confident I will be okay on the motorway on a one off trip.

What are the chances of being caught with ANPR and traffic police? As long as I ride confidently I should not stand out and nothing on my number plate would give any info on my license.

I am currently doing my full test in a few weeks, but on this occasion I cannot wait and would prefer to use the motorway on this trip (it would be safer for me and less lengthy.
I know it's wrong to break the law, but nothing except a random police stop will reveal anything. Even the bike itself looks a far bigger engine size for a 125.

Your opinions please, I knw it's wrong but I am fully insured, MOT's and a fully serviced bike.
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PostPosted: 07:31 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've set it out yourself already.

Chances of being caught are slim.
Costs if you are caught are high.
Somewhere in there you've got a risk versus reward balance.

Affirmation therapy?
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PostPosted: 07:46 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Thank god you turned up officer, I took a wrong turn and ended up on this motorway, can you please escort me off at the next junction, I'm really worried?"
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PostPosted: 07:51 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not worth the risk. 125 on the motorway will stick out like a sore thumb.

Take the back roads, enjoy the ride Wink

Just out of interest though, wonder if anyone has accidently taken a 125 on L plates down a slip road to a Motorway by accident? Took the wrong turn off a roundabout.
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PostPosted: 07:58 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: re Reply with quote

i believe anpr can only see if is insured and that is about it, i dont think police have access to cbt records. so to them it will be an insured 125, 125s are allowed on the motorway so doubt you would get caught unless you had an accident
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PostPosted: 08:00 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with arry.

If your test is in the next few weeks is it really worth the risk of getting bent over and heavily fisted by the long arm of the law?

I'm pretty risk averse with stuff like that, so I wouldn't, but plenty of people get away with it.
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PostPosted: 08:31 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

bigdom86 wrote:
i believe anpr can only see if is insured and that is about it, i dont think police have access to cbt records. so to them it will be an insured 125, 125s are allowed on the motorway so doubt you would get caught unless you had an accident


Just from watching police programs on telly I can say that it also tells them what license the registered keeper holds and whether its suspended, probably not as an alarm, granted, although It could easily do that dependant on the location it sees the plate i suppose.
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PostPosted: 08:51 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

faffergotgunz wrote:
Just out of interest though, wonder if anyone has accidently taken a 125 on L plates down a slip road to a Motorway by accident? Took the wrong turn off a roundabout.
A BCF'er did this about a year ago IIRC, got done for it. Either a camera job or unmarked police car.
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PostPosted: 08:55 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to remember that a lot of motorways are camera controlled with ANPR. You might get away with it but as has been mentioned above. Someone on here got caught and bumraped.

Worst that can happen? Very worst.

Riding outside of the constraints of your licence is 3 points.
This will make your insurance invalid, that's now a maximum of 8 points.
Good luck getting insurance again for the next 5 years.

Take the long way around, it'll be safer and cheaper.
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PostPosted: 09:02 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pjay wrote:
"Thank god you turned up officer, I took a wrong turn and ended up on this motorway, can you please escort me off at the next junction, I'm really worried?"

"And did my find my L plates? They seem to have blown off."


arry wrote:
Affirmation therapy?

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PostPosted: 09:08 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just recently I saw a young lad walking his ped back along the slip road of the M11.

I think I would've just kept going myself but there you are.

Only yesterday I passed another with L plates, head on tank, trying to squeeze 50mph out of it in the middle lane.

Ho hum..
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PostPosted: 09:29 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuck all chance of being stopped. I've ridden my grom on Motorways frequently. Very few shits could be given by your average copper. It's the fastest way around the Newcastle central motorway at 8am. I've filtered past many cop cars

If you're wearing proper bike gear on a big looking 125, then they wont pay any attention.

If you're wearing your best adidas gear with nike air max and a chinky ped they might be interested
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would you risk it for a chocolate biscuit?
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Re: CBT riding on the motorway Reply with quote

photonic wrote:
been riding for nearly 10 years

photonic wrote:
I am doing my full test in a few weeks

photonic wrote:
I cannot wait to use the motorway


So you haven't been arsed to get your shit together and get a proper licence, for ten years; five repeat CBT's worth of contentedly pretending to be a learner, and avoiding doing the tests that would let you ride on motorways, carry pillions, not have to display an L-Plate, and let you ride a bike over 125cc...

Ten Years! Geez! Ten years ago, you could have done the tests on your 125, for less then the price of one repeat CBT to keep L-Plating, and got a full ride-what-you-like licence for it, rather than have to jump through the 3DL hoops & the 3-tier licence system.

But, now, you don't have the 'patience' to ride a couple of extra miles, to stay within the licence entitlement you have been abusing for a decade?

photonic wrote:
and was wondering what the chances are of being caught on the motorway? (with L plates deliberately removed).


Depends on how suspicious you look, whether there's any coppas about, & how bored they may be if they spot you.

photonic wrote:
but I have passed my theory test and I am confident I will be okay on the motorway on a one off trip.


Ten years on L-Plates, and you only JUST have the confidence you'll be OK riding on one of the 'safest' types of road in the country?!?!?!?

Having learned enough high-way code to know its illegal on L-Plates?!?!?!

photonic wrote:
Your opinions please, I knw it's wrong but I am fully insured, MOT's and a fully serviced bike.


Criminal Genius, I reckon.. shear genius of the criminal variety... seriously..

IMO.. you are either completely stupid, and if you cant pass a bludy bike test in ten fucking years shouldn't be in charge of anything with more moving parts than a pair of scissors , and it's a miracle you have survived this long... or you are simply a bit dim with ostrich tenancies, to whom reality is a slightly inconvenient thing best avoided, where possible.

TEN YEARS on L-Plates FFS! Not legally entitled to use M-Ways has obviously not been THAT much of an inconvenience to you, or you'd have done something about it long, LONG ago! What's a couple more weeks?

But all of a sudden, you want to risk points on the licence you don't yet have for it?!?!?

Do it.. Don't do it... let nature take its course... I say.. I don't think our opinions will effect your reality very much either way!
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

In all the forums I've perused around the interwebs, with a total post count of around 40,000, in the little time I've been here, I've never -at a glance- known a more valuable member of a community than Teflon Mike.

OP, don't you ever conjure that thought again young man.
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I have a medal please? I managed to read an entire Teffers post Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it really worth the risk if your doing your tests soon?

If you get caught then you've got a nice number of offences going for you with a large potential number of points, hefty fine plus the chance of a temporary ban.
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver_Fox wrote:
Can I have a medal please? I managed to read an entire Teffers post Laughing

I agree with the moderation on it: Abusive and Insightful. I often want to rate both ways.
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did it lots in 2002 / 2003 and you just blend in to the rest of the traffic. Assuming you're not on some shit slow 125 that struggles to do 70mph, there's no reason for a 125 to stand out. If it's a two smoke 125, when the restrictors fall out you'll be able to sit happily at 80-90mph and you're even less conspicuous.

You could just do your test and then you won't have to worry about whether ANPR cameras are all they're hyped up to be. Razz

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PostPosted: 14:29 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

How would ANPR be an issue? My understanding's they only flag up vehicles with no insurance/tax/mot or if there's a special marker against your vehicle.

Coming back from my test we passed a patrol car (2 of us on Bandits) with L plates on, they left us alone. Never took a 125 on a motorway as frankly I'd find it terrifying, you probably won't get caught but it's a stupid risk for very little reward.
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Laughing Laughing
I think that's the best Teflon post I've ever read. The concision derived from anger is magnificent. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

jnw010 wrote:
Laughing Laughing Laughing
I think that's the best Teflon post I've ever read. The concision derived from anger is magnificent. Thumbs Up

Not angry.. just astounded
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
How would ANPR be an issue? My understanding's they only flag up vehicles with no insurance/tax/mot or if there's a special marker against your vehicle.

Coming back from my test we passed a patrol car (2 of us on Bandits) with L plates on, they left us alone. Never took a 125 on a motorway as frankly I'd find it terrifying, you probably won't get caught but it's a stupid risk for very little reward.

If ANPR is as amazing as it is made out to be sometimes on police, camera, action type programs then their computer will tell them if the registered keeper of a vehicle has a provisional license. How much that happens when the police haven't got a tv crew watching them is debatable. Laughing

There's no particular risk of being pulled over by traffic plod on the motorway unless you do something to draw attention to yourself. As long as you don't do that then ANPR cameras are the most likely way you could be caught.

OP should just do his test and let someone else find out how real the risk of ANPR cameras is. Razz
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PostPosted: 16:30 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
jnw010 wrote:
Laughing Laughing Laughing
I think that's the best Teflon post I've ever read. The concision derived from anger is magnificent. Thumbs Up

Not angry.. just astounded


the pair of you need therapy ... prehaps you could go together...
the sublime and the ridiculous ... Sick

and OP. i regular did ride a 125cc on the motorway (post test)
includin the M25 arount box hill and never got stopped once...

not that i`m recomendin doin so..
not an enjoyable experiance what so ever,
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