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Jock1092
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PostPosted: 12:52 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Issues with repair gone wrong Reply with quote

Hi, so I've had some issues with my suzuki marauder gz125hs.

To go into a bit of detail first, some history of the bike is that it's suzuki, but made by one of thier old manufacturers. As such it has a few variations on the original gz125.

My issue is after replacing the front forks it has, using official parts, reversed the brake disk side from right to left and the speedo drive is also reversed... That has caused a big problem. My main concern is I cannot anywhere find the right forks though suzuki ones fit.

I'm wondering if anyone knows would changing the speedo itself for a suzuki one likely run the right way? Or am I probably not going to able to fix this. As a note, my only local bike shop won't touch the thing even though he sold it so I'm on my own here. I've added some pictures if the way things are currently.
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brake's on the wrong side and the speedo runs backwards? Sure the the right and left legs haven't been swapped?

Jock1092 wrote:
I've added some pictures if the way things are currently.


No you haven't.
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm struggling to understand exactly what the problem is here from your description, but can't it be cured by swapping the fork legs from one side to the other?

Sorry, wrote this as The Shaggy D.A. replied with much the same thought.
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP doesn't have a Suzuki Marauder GZ125. He has a chinky copy. And hence can't find parts.

Tell us what the bike really is and you may get help.
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Puzzled too
All the gz125hs pics i googled have to disk on the right and speedo drive on the left.
Is it possible the forks were put on the wrong legs and the wheel fiited arse about face?
( EDit: have now seen a marauder with this setup)
Waiting on OPs pics
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

WD Forte wrote:

All the gz125hs pics i googled

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some history of the bike is that it's suzuki, but made by one of thier old manufacturers. As such it has a few variations on the original gz125.


It's not a GZ125
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PostPosted: 13:38 - 17 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Need pics. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 18 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry for delay, if i had information about it being a chinky bike i would openly say it as such ( ive had a few as run abouts and )

my info on it being a maurder ( at least not a total fake) come directly from suzuki as i initially tried them for parts, and they are the ones who told me its origins baseed on vin and engine number ( plus some help from this forum)
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 18 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the pics.
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 18 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

pics attempt https://i66.tinypic.com/16jiy4l.jpg



https://i66.tinypic.com/2dv911d.jpg
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 18 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariel Badger wrote:
Thanks for the pics.
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 18 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

as a note - i am aware the lock in the pic is pointless but from what ive been through with this thing a thief would only be doing me a favour
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 18 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swap the forks over.
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 18 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
Swap the forks over.


i have thought of that but shouldn't the brake calliper attach at the rear of the fork ?
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 18 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

after some brief thoughts anyone know how uk law is with aftermarket/cutom speedos? might be the easiest option
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 18 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have thought so this keeps the cast mounts under compressive rather than tensile forces during breaking.
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 18 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariel Badger wrote:
I would have thought so this keeps the cast mounts under compressive rather than tensile forces during breaking.


Yeah that's why I've kept it as is, I really kick myself about this because I had the original forks but they had bad pitting and tore the seals, I opted for new ones and had the old ones uplifted at the same time rather than rechroming but now it seems the rechrome was the right way to go
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 18 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jock1092 wrote:
after some brief thoughts anyone know how uk law is with aftermarket/cutom speedos? might be the easiest option

You're fine with a push bike speedo or similar generally.
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 18 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

just had a quick look at marauder125 rather than gz125 pics
and it looks like the disk and speedo drive are both on the same
( left hand) side.

if you're lucky, it may be a case of assembly error
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 18 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jock1092 wrote:
CaNsA wrote:
Swap the forks over.


i have thought of that but shouldn't the brake calliper attach at the rear of the fork ?


Spin the fork lower round.

See if everything fits.
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 18 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the past, callipers used to be front of the forks, but then people realised it would be better to have them on the back of the fork for the reasons given by 'badger.

I've never heard of a fork mount on a calliper on the front of the fork to break without some sort of collision being involved beforehand, so it's not the end of the world if you have to put it there.

Are you sure that you haven't just put the front wheel in back to front?
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 18 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
In the past, callipers used to be front of the forks, but then people realised it would be better to have them on the back of the fork for the reasons given by 'badger.

I've never heard of a fork mount on a calliper on the front of the fork to break without some sort of collision being involved beforehand, so it's not the end of the world if you have to put it there.

Are you sure that you haven't just put the front wheel in back to front?


I'm fairly sure it's the right way round, I'm going over it again tommorow depending on weather and I'll get pictures to back up why I'm sure it's right. All I can think is it does seem I'm missing something simple. I'd rather it be simple and jut me being an bit if a fool.
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 18 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to the fowlers parts fiche, all marauders (and I've checked all years/versions) have the speedo drive on the same side as the disk.

https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/5597828/gz125-marauder-wxy-models-all-years/front-wheel
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 18 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, mines not the same bike but fwiw my Speedo drive and disk are on the same side.

Check the direction of the tyres.. there should be an arrow on the side wall and if there isn't it should work either Way. In that case flip the wheel 180 along with the spacers and Speedo drive


Edit. If the wheel is the right way around then see if the spacers/drive will swap sides


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PostPosted: 21:40 - 18 May 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
Swap the forks over.


CaNsA wrote:
Spin the fork lower round.

See if everything fits.


The mudguard won't - the holes will be on the outside.
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