Who's to blame - pedestrian or biker?

[goto10]

I witnessed the build-up (and aftermath) to a pedestrian getting hit by a biker along the embankment this evening (a van got in the way at the moment of impact so I didn't see the collision itself) - (Eastbound, just before the Blackfriars underpass) - to me it looked like the biker may have been on the wrong side of the double white lines (although he says he wasn't) - the pedestrian stepped off the pavement and walked between the stationary cars and evidently looked to his left whilst walking out into the next lane (where the bike was filtering past the cars) - it must've been quite an impact - the pedestrian twisted his back and had a bloody eye, the biker chipped a tooth and damaged his helmet/textiles/bike.
The pedestrian apologised but the biker wanted some recompense for his losses (2014 Versys 1000, scratched/dented engine protector bars and scuffed bar-end and mirror) - personally if I was in his position I would've probably shaken on it and gone our separate ways (which is what the pedestrian wanted to do)
It got me thinking on the way home - what's the law on this, assuming the biker _hadn't_ crossed the white lines, is it a 50/50 blame split or was the pedestrian 100% in the wrong? Would the MiB pay-out to the biker on behalf of the pedestrian?

However, if he was on the wrong side of the double whites, would that be 100% biker at fault?
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[Ste]

[goto10]

[hellkat]

So ...

Before he darted out from between two stationary cars, much in the manner of a child chasing a ball out into the road ...

... did the pedestrian pause momentarily to look in the direction that the bike was coming from (regardless of what side of the white lines he was on?)

... to check that nothing was coming along, whether motorcycle or bicycle (because it could just as easily have been one of them buggers).
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[goto10]

I don't know if he looked, I'm guessing not. He was fifteen metres from a traffic light controlled crossing, but chose to dart between cars on a busy road.
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[hellkat]

Exactly.
Idiot pedestrian's fault.
But if the biker was on the wrong side of the road, he'll get the blame
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[duhawkz]

[Ste]

[Rogerborg]

Biker's fault for not having louder pipes and therefore not saving lives.

Honestly, London, crashed crash bars and a Shane MacGowan grill are just the cost of doing bidness.
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[grr666]

Why should a pedestrian cause an accident that damaged people and belongings not be liable?
If that's the case I'm off for a walk down to the cycle lane with a broomstick handle and a camera.
I mean after all what can they do? Put my 'pedestrian insurance' up?
Endorse my 'pedestrian licence'?
It seems that if you are on foot then you can cause utter fucking mayhem and get away scott (and more importantly
claim and punishment) free? I bet the poor sod on the bike wishes he'd properly injured the fuckwit pedestrian.
At least the retribution would have been karmic that way.
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[Polarbear]

When a push bike scraped along the side of my car and I grabbed him to get his details to claim the cops told me I was lucky they weren't going to do me for assault. The motorist is always wrong.
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[P.]

Engine bars and bar end/levers I'd not worry about but you say chipped tooth and damaged presumably pricey gear. I'd be more annoyed with that than the engine bars.

[G]

I wouldn't consider it an issue of blame, but of risk.
The biker is risking a lot more hassle, at I suspect not great odds on his account.

[straydog]

I think you'll find as far as the law is concerned
An accident between a pedestrian and a motor vehicle
the motor vehicle is always to blame.

I had a ped run out and hit the SIDE of my van a few years back
Apparently according to the law it was my fault!!!!!!
Even though i was stationary stuck in traffic, go figure.

Dog

[G]

[Rogerborg]

I am also interested in an answer to that question. It seems like it's gone through court awfully quickly.
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[goto10]

[P.]

[Rogerborg]

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[goto10]

Months later - here's the vid (I just happened upon it)

At 14 seconds I saw the pedestrian step off the pavement and instantly knew what was likely to happen - the impact happened at 17 seconds - can see road sprawlage at 20 seconds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co06_UCcI0Y
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[M.C]

You're delivering a little quicker these days

Biker should have been filtering on the left

[Rogerborg]

Biker was well past the double-whites, although it doesn't really matter because if he'd squeezed past between the van and the lines it would just have made the collision more likely.

Ped was an idiot for stepping out assuming nothing would be making progress (in London!), biker was an idiot for not anticipating said idiocy.

Root cause analysis still says: London, cost of running the rat race.
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[angryjonny]

[Doovy]

I went down the same stretch of road last night, after 10 months of not riding down it (moved house and therefore commute route too). They've made a real pigs ear of the cycle superhighway and the white lines. Horrific single lane traffic, even through the BF underpass.

Having also hit a pedestrian a week and a half ago, I know the feeling of the frustration. However mine was in daylight and on an otherwise completely clear road with no blockages of visibility.

I maintain it's the pedestrians fault in this case. But yes, biker would have had to have been over the double whites. I know I was yesterday
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