1 death equals a 12month ban..

[Kaya75]

12 month ban.. wow, sends a massage then...




https://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/crime/mum-sobs-in-the-dock-after-hearing-how-she-caused-motorcyclist-s-death-1-7920943

120mph = 12 at her majestys pleasure...wtf
____________________
ybr125 Sold, GSF600 K1 Bandit (For Sale), FJR13000 gen2.

[conker]

https://www.hastingsobserver.co.uk/news/local/st-leonards-fast-food-worker-sentenced-over-fatal-battle-motorcycle-crash-1-7389689

"Flanagan was sentenced to 15 months imprisonment, suspended for two years and was ordered to carry out 180 hours of unpaid work within 12 months at Lewes Crown Court." Business as usual

[Doovy]

She says she never wants to drive again. So they ban her. Well, woopie.

Grammatical and spelling errors in that article were horrendous.
____________________
Yamaha RXS 100 > Honda CD 250 > Honda Hornet 600 > Honda CBR 600RR > Yamaha RXS 100 > Kawasaki ZX6R J2 > Yamaha FZ1

[UnknownStuntm...]

"she doesn't wear makeup"

Top class. Top cocking class. Who the fuck lets reporting like this go unchallenged? It's almost as if it's designed to make people focus on the errors and stupid reporting rather than the fact some divot bint killed another human by being a twat. Don't get me wrong, I'm mad about that, and the lenient sentence, but if the family of that guy were to read this they'd lose even more of their shit.

[Meatybeaty]

I was at Manchester Crown Court in Feb this year as a witness for the prosecution, saw a biker killed by a woman doing a u-turn on Amounderness Way in Fleetwood , 11th April 2014, she got 18mths suspended and a 3 year ban , his family lost a dad to 3 kids and a husband, terribly sad

[Rogerborg]

[anthony_r6]

I don't know if it's just the defence, but I this is the first article like this I have read where I sense the woman is genuinely remorseful at the fact that she has done this and acknowledges it is devastating to their victims and their families.

I think I agree with the judge - a longer sentence would not benefit anyone.
____________________
Ted : "Maybe he's agoraphobic."
Dougal : "Jack scared of fighting? I don't think so, Ted."

[Hahadumball]

the logic is so flawed, if you ever get caught speeding.. run the officer over till he is dead.

12 month ban

winner!
____________________
Fin: no matter how much I look at It I can't understand what was going through my head, all I remember is going about 80 and redlining it to stop it seizing.
360 Deg... Five 1/4 turns. :- Teflon-Mike 18 Jan 2015

[pepperami]

[Fin]

That sucks for all his family and friends but I can't think of any other punishment that would fit in with modern society and being moral, a lifetime ban from driving should be standard. Also sucks a lot for the ones who watched their friends/husbands die and got injured themselves, some of the physical pain from injuries never goes away and causes problems in every day life for the rest of their life.

[Falco]

This kind of accident is pretty scary because it's out of your control.

It's one thing to be prepared for car drivers not seeing you in their mirror, coming out of a junction, when you just happen to occupy a space on the road that they want etc etc. but what can you do when someone just turns across the road in front of you?

At some point you have to assume that car drivers are at least vaguely aware of the world around them, else you'd be crawling along at 20mph in terror of these mad psychotics in metal cages trying to mow you down. Based on what I have read in the article it sounds like by the time she turned he was so close he had no time to react. What on earth can you do that situation?

Oh and why is it not a lifetime ban?! If someone dies because you aren't capable of driving safely, why will that be different the next time you get in the car? It's not a matter of punishment (I expect the guilt will do that), it's a matter of other road users safety.

[Polarbear]

A lifetime ban given to this woman would be honoured by her. Most people who cause accidents like that, hit and run etc. will go on driving anyway and you.

OK, it's a SMIDSY. If she had been on her phone at the time I'd agree with a long sentence like that female copper DIDN'T get. If she had been drunk I'd want to throw her in the cell with the dead riders family and let them work things out.

In this case I just feel it's tragic for everyone involved.
____________________
Victory Cross Country American tractor.

[Islander]

[Dabura]

I agree that at the end of the day this is just a terrible accident but even then I feel the punishment is inadequate. Not so much prison but the fact a family has lost a father and maybe the main provider. A lift time ban and a fine or something through her insurance to provide the family and children the money for growing up/university would be suitable.
____________________
Past: Peugeot Speed Fight 50 - couldn't handle winter.Gilera Sc125 - Crashed and burned(literally).Aprilia Rs125 - Fell apart and Sold. Mk1Bandit Stolen

Present: Kawasaki Z500-B

[Rogerborg]

[DrSnoosnoo]

Can someone help me understand the punishment?

Is it;

12 months from now, let's say 20th May 2017, she can just get in a car again?
or
12 months from now she has to re pass a driving test before being allowed to drive?

I, like others, feel she is truly remorseful. I find it commendable she wasn't saying, "he came out of nowhere, he was doing a wheelie going far too fast", as her defence.

I also agree with the defence stating she did not want to talk about her anguish because that would be a plea for sympathy.

She obviously fell far below the expected standard of driving. She should ONLY be allowed to drive after passing an extended driving test, and perhaps for those who have killed while driving, they should be made to pay for a retest every x years (I'd suggest between 2 and 5).
____________________
I'm Sam; Northern, Ginger, Lover
Did have: '95 ZZR600 '83 CG125 '97 ZZR1100 '15 Hypermotard 821 SP Do Have: '10 ZX10R

[Aceslock]

Well that was a nice depressing read.........
____________________
Previous Bike: Skyjet SJ27
Sold: Yamaha YZF 600 R Thundercat. Sold: ZX636R
Current bike: R1 14B (Beast)

[BTTD]

Maybe I'm just in a bad mood this morning, but I think the punishment is way too light. So she feels really bad about it, no point in locking her up etc. True, but she killed a guy cos she had her head up her arse.
A lot of people take driving a vehicle for granted and most of the time they're not really concentrating.
Yeah, we all have lapses of concentration, but how many bikers pull across the front of cars without looking?

Why is that? Fucking consequences. Driving a car? Meh. No biggy.

[Rogerborg]

[B5234FT]

[DrSnoosnoo]

[MarkJ]

[BTTD]

[Calite]

I think a big part of the sentencing is intention.

If you happen to be a dopey git and dont notice a bike at a junction and SMIDSY him/her then you had no intention to cause harm or break the law however life has been lost at your negligence. As such you are sentenced in such a way that benefits society, there is no point in locking you up and throwing away the key at the expense of the tax payer when you can be out working, paying tax, provided it is in an enviroment where you are unlikely to commit further negligence.

However if you are caught doing 120mph you also do not intend to cause harm however it is really difficult to argue that you where not INTENDING to break the law, and as such you require 'rehabilitation'. That rehabilitation normally comes in the form of a hefty prison sentence because you have shown disregard of the law.

Thats the way the legal system tends to look at it anywho, in the UK we operate a rehabilitation based system of law rather than the punishment ones used elsewhere.

[B5234FT]