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binge Emo Kiddy
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Posted: 01:38 - 22 Aug 2004 Post subject: SPEEDFIGHT 70CC... Dynoing??? [PLEASE READ!] |
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Tonight i raced 2 gillera runner 125s and a cagiva 70cc and i can thrash the runners, but the cagiva can brush past me at about 70mph, with still another gear to go! how can i improve the top end of my scooter, but not make my bottom end totally crap??? pls help me cos i hate loosing races. ____________________ - Honda XL125S - CBR400 NC29 - VFR400 NC30 - CBR400 NC29 - TL1000R - TeeZeR Pit! - Bandit 12 - YZF450 - LuckyMX125 Pit! - Demon X XLR 140 Pit!
- Stomp KZ 160 Pit! - Demon X D-link 140 Pit! - CRF50F Mini-Pit - MonsterMoto 155cc MiniSM - Honda Chaly 150cc - Yamaha 98' R1
- Honda Chaly 140cc - Thumpstar 190cc 4v MiniSM - Aprilia RS125 Pit-Bike -
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Posted: 11:29 - 22 Aug 2004 Post subject: |
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Have you thought about getting malossi carbs for the bike and getting a race CDI? Not to sound stupid or anything, but have you tried Ste's "powerbands" off ebay ? ____________________ The Tot 2007 Yamaha R1 4C8 2002 Yamaha FZS1000 Fazer &
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Posted: 12:43 - 22 Aug 2004 Post subject: |
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Look winning a race on a scooter doesn't look cool.
Even riding one doesn't look cool, I should know.
You want to race? get a bigger bike and do some trackdays. It's legal too. ____________________ Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth. |
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But it's a scooter, I have one they are dead ugly!!! ____________________ Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth. |
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Talking about race rep colours, any of you guys seen the 04 gilera runners done up to look like their 125 gp bikes... not badi must admit... best Runner i've seen was a 125VX or Sp, can't remember in the Rizla Suzuki livery in pastel blue. Err... mate, my advice is wait till you're 17 and get yourself an RS, NSR, Mito, CBR??? or anything of that like. It works out cheaper than maxing out your then frail and abused speedfight. But if you're committed to making your mini machine go faster, by all means, nothing is stopping you. ____________________ The Tot 2007 Yamaha R1 4C8 2002 Yamaha FZS1000 Fazer &
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Posted: 19:51 - 22 Aug 2004 Post subject: |
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Tart it up a bit then Somerset!
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Posted: 01:04 - 23 Aug 2004 Post subject: |
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70mph is a bit far fetched, it will be more like just over 60mph at most on a long straight. Trust me i had a speedfight 2 LC that i tuned up ages ago, and they are pointless for tuning. Just wait until you can get a 125cc geared bike, they are worlds apart. That's if you're not 17 already. ____________________
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Posted: 01:33 - 23 Aug 2004 Post subject: |
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If you want to go faster get a bike designed to fast, as 50cc bikes or peds aren't. Best way to make it go fast is to ride it off a cliff (the bigger the cliff the faster it'll go) or push it out the back of a plane.
They're not designed or intended to go fast and you're going to run them into the ground if you use them the exact opposite of what they're designed and made for. Run it at full revs at 70mph (I believe you, millions wouldn't) for an hour will make it blow up very very quickly and will need a rebuild which will cost a fair amount of money.
If you want to tune a bike at least get a bike which takes well to being tuned. |
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Posted: 01:40 - 23 Aug 2004 Post subject: |
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lol. wel im only 16. hehe. but it really pisses off the runner 125 riders that they can be beaten by a 70cc. hehe. and yea, i kno it will eventually blow up, but the scooters who i ride with are slower than mine, so i only have to cruse at half revs to keep up, lol. lucky me. and yea, it does anoy me wen ppl say "i doubt it wil do 70" wen it cleary can, and does! and to be quite honnest, i dnt rlly wana bigger bike ryt now. ive got a love for scooters.
i mite get sumin like a jetfoce compressor 125 next year. sayin that, a DT125R wud do fine. ____________________ - Honda XL125S - CBR400 NC29 - VFR400 NC30 - CBR400 NC29 - TL1000R - TeeZeR Pit! - Bandit 12 - YZF450 - LuckyMX125 Pit! - Demon X XLR 140 Pit!
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A lot of the people I know in the London area use Taffspeed in Newport, which is a bit of a trek, but well worth it as they are one of the best tuners in the country.
This is one of my mates scooters after some serious tweaking from taffspeed. It will run a standing quarter in 13.60 @ 94mph
https://www.italjetdragster.net/albums/userpics/10005/dazzadyno.jpg
As well as dynoing I would get a race cylinder and a decent pipe as the first mods.
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Posted: 23:45 - 23 Aug 2004 Post subject: |
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The MHR rep is not a proper race cylinder, its doesn't put out anywhere near as much power as the proper MHR ones. The rep ones are only cheap at about 120 squid where as the proper MHR ones are about 300 squid. Your bike is probably running about 7hp at the mo, however if you had the cash you could get it up to nearer 19hp at the wheel. I am going to build myself a 50cc sprinter next year and am aiming for about the 20hp mark.
That graph was a result of a full day of dynoing, changing the jetting and rollers and a bit of top secret taffspeed magic.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 19 years, 242 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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