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I know I know, GTFO etc

I've seen Matt B recommend the US30 bag, but there's also the option for a combo ie the US20 and US10 strapped together. Does anyone have any experience of these/what's best for touring duty?
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

I have a US30, and can attach additional US10s if needed. It's awesome. It also kept all of my stuff dry in the worst rain I've ever ridden in through Northern France. It's good kit.

I've used mine for France, Holland as well as more local stuff.
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[arry]

Mate I was using the US30 on our Wales trip - that was my day pack.

I'd say for the sake of the extra £20 go for the 30 as your back seat is more than big enough to accommodate it.

It's a good bit of kit, but expensive for what it is. Realistically it's only benefit over a good Lomo bag is ease of attachment but with your bike having the bungee hooks under the rear panels a good cargo net would solve your issue no bother.

Did you see the bloody great HELD 60L bag I rode off with? That swallows more than a bukkaking porn star.

[waffles]

I did a ten day holiday a couple of years ago, I took a US20 with two 10's strapped either side and it worked out nicely (apart from being fiddly to remove/replace after each ride). I managed to squeeze enough undies and socks, two pairs of jeans, a bunch of t shirts, jacket, space bag, shoes, toiletries and a book in there. I'm going away again this year and am debating whether to get a US30 and strap my 20 on top with a 10 on the tank as I'm planning on going for longer plus I am going to pack a lot more carefully!

However they are fab. It absolutely pissed it down from Amsterdam to pretty much Nurburg and everything inside was bone dry plus it didn't budge at all despite some fun on unrestricted autobahn's. If you have the cash get some Kriega stuff

As for sizes of bags, that is up to you. I would like to have the option of some space left over should you need it.
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[Dave V4]

Im using a us30 for my clothes with a 10 strapped on top for waterproofs, over boots and gloves. Us 20 on tank for lappy,chargers,documents and any valueables.
1st time using them this year as I had huge panniers previously. Tried a couple of test runs and they seem good so far, the Tuono rear seat isn't very big but they all fit on securely

[TallPaul_S]

US30 and 2x US20, with a cargo net for leathers when I'm wearing kevlar jeans. 70 litres on the back, I've done a 100 mile trial run and it didn't budge one bit. Awesome bits of kit.

I use an R30 rucksack every day for commuting, it gets covered in road crap and winter salt and just shrugs it off, has never let in a drop of water.

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That's camping stuff and everything else for 5 days away, and probably enough room for 2 weeks away (extra clothes). The US30 has my tent and sleeping bag, then one US20 has an self-inflating camp bed, jetboil stove and some other bits and bobs. 2nd US20 will have just clothes, pair of trainers, washing stuff etc.

Tank bag will have my waterproofs, electronics, maps,some food.

If your pillion seat is big enough for a US30 then it's wise to get that, if not a US20 will go on any bike, even a tiny sportsbike pillion. But then you're limited to 40l rather than the 70l as above. Although another US20/10 can be fitted on top, so I could actually have 90 litres on the back.
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[Silver_Fox]

Thank you, that's really helpful (and to everyone else too). Where did tyou get your cargo net? They seem to vary wildly in quality...
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[TallPaul_S]

I honestly can't remember, it was about 2 years ago. Might have even been halfords!
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[Dave70]

How do you get your leg over,so to speak, with all that gear on the pillion seat?
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[TallPaul_S]

[Dave70]

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The issue i have with Kriega's US packs is they roll around if not completely stuffed to the brim all the time, although their R25 parachute rucksack i bought recently is pretty good...except for the over extortionate £120 which mostly pays for the 10 yr guarantee + sales rep's bottle of champagne instead of including the Harness pocket & 3L Hydrapack resivoir

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

I'm look at a Kreiga rucksack for my commute when my Burton AK one finally dies.
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[NJD]

J&S have started selling Kriega and have it advertised quite heavily on their website. I was tempted by a US-20 until I saw that the price of the detachable clips are £19 per one. Lets just say you have a really bad day or over time loose all four at some point that's £76 to replace them. I may just be creating nonsense excuses but it seems everything, including spares, are just too highly priced for my liking, I'm not doubting the quality.

Then again its like any luggage. I've got a decent £15 rucksack from Argos but then a "motorbike" rucksack from J&S costs £40 +. I could buy another Lextek tail bag for just over what one of the Kriega straps cost, works for me.

[Dave70]

I've not tried them myself but, they do come highly recommended and I am looking to get the 30.

I guess if you're planning on doing some serious touring they are probably worth it in the long run. If they last the distance and keep all your stuff safe and dry better than anything else that is.
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[arry]

[TallPaul_S]

[NJD]

[arry]

Unlikely to lose them though. The hooks go under the seat and the loops aren't undone to remove the bag, you just loosen the buckle and unhook.

[TallPaul_S]

[arry]

That's what I read of it too. But since when they're attached to the bag you rarely unclip them and they're not easy to accidentally unclip, I'm convinced that losing them would be pretty tough going.

[NJD]

[chickenstrip]

I'm using Kriega for the first time now. It is proving to be totally waterproof, and we've been through some torrential rain this last week. I've got a US30 with 2 US20s, one either side, and have to agree with Waffles- it's a bit of a palaver when you're using them like that. I sometimes envy my mate who is using the tried and traditional method of securing a couple of sea bags with bungees - he's always ready to go quicker than I can be. The other thing I've discovered is that no matter how much you tighten all the straps up, if they get a good soaking they seem to stretch and I have found myself having to retighten everything which is no easy matter, as using the three bag system it's hard to get at some of the straps without dismantling it all. I'm glad I've brought a magnetic, zip up tank bag with me to keep things handy for on the go, as retrieving anything from the Kriegas would be a nightmare.
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