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PostPosted: 10:20 - 24 Jun 2016    Post subject: So we've left..... Reply with quote

Is the grass going to be greener on the otherside?
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PostPosted: 10:21 - 24 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

We haven't..
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 24 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The population have given their opinion, that's all that's happened.
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 24 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Until article 50 has been effected, no-one has done anything (endless salt on social media notwithstanding). Cameron has already said that he's not going to be the one to do it, so nothing happens until October at the earliest, when he's replaced.
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 24 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the bitching and whining starts in.....

Hang on!, just heard the radio and its already started.
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 24 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

be ten years before any noticeable change in the colour of grass, but you will notice it as you part company from the eu
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 24 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ScaredyCat wrote:
We haven't..


And we may yet not.
As we will be negotiating from a position of weakness with the rest of the world it wouldn't surprise me if/when the terms become known that there is another referendum.
It also wouldn't surprise me what with the talk of the EU changing in light of this vote if the EU requests a second chance on considerably better terms.
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 24 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
Alternatively, we can now start negotiating trade deals with the rest of the world's 5 biggest economies

Or we could not, and just... trade.

As you note, we don't have any deals with them at the moment because of EU ineptitude. Doesn't stop us doing business.

+1 on us not being out and most likely not getting out. Boris has just blurted out "As the Prime Minister has rightly said there is no need to invoke Article 50", to the surprise of nobody who's been following along. Renegotiate.

But let's focus on the positives for the majority of the UK:

Cameron: gone.
Corbyn: going.
Blair: can now be prosecuted as a war criminal.
Sweaties: might get what they asked for.

The drama llama will pay many visits, we'll have some laughs along the way. Fun times.
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 24 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meh, I'm not worried, when has a combination of nationalism and economic depression ever resulted in something bad happening in Europe.

EDIT: I will just leave this here

Sore losers much?
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 24 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bishbash II wrote:
Meh, I'm not worried, when has a combination of nationalism and economic depression ever resulted in something bad happening in Europe.

EDIT: I will just leave this here

Sore losers much?

Firstly, there needs to be a petition to stop all these f**king petitions. Aren't those terms reminiscent of the Scottish referendum years (decades) ago, where it was basically setup so the government got the result they wanted?

On the subject of Scottish independence what justification is there for another referendum? They knew an EU referendum was coming, they decided to stay in the UK, they voted yesterday. As much as I'd like all the whiny Scottish politicians to GTFO, a border with a European country would be a very bad thing (as will be the situation in Ireland).
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 24 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still trying to decide if I'm going to go and watch the riots in George Square tonight (after the Independence vote "party"..... all it took was someone shouting "Oooohhhh" for the pro-independence crowd to sing Flower of Scotland at the top of their lungs.... it was my best birthday ever)
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 24 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
On the subject of Scottish independence what justification is there for another referendum?

62% of Sweaties voted for the status quo, therefore 62% will vote for changing it.

https://i.imgur.com/VKADXoi.jpg?1
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 24 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

What it said on the ballot paper, "Do you wish to remain in or leave the EU?
What people thought they were voting for, " Do you wish to stop immigration into the UK and live in the 1950s?"
What we really voted for, " Who do you wish to run the right of UK politics?"
(Unless of course you live in Scotland where they believe the question was, " Do you want independent Scotland?")
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 24 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brussels sounds like it wants to get rid of us pretty damn' quick before so-called 'contagion' sets in and several other countries jump in a bit rapid with demands for their own referendums.
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 24 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
M.C wrote:
On the subject of Scottish independence what justification is there for another referendum?

62% of Sweaties voted for the status quo, therefore 62% will vote for changing it.

https://i.imgur.com/VKADXoi.jpg?1

So will Northern Ireland and London get an independence referendum as well? Thinking

Ariel Badger wrote:

(Unless of course you live in Scotland where they believe the question was, " Do you want independent Scotland?")

They thought the last general election was as well. Bless Wub
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 24 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariel Badger wrote:
What it said on the ballot paper, "Do you wish to remain in or leave the EU?
What people thought they were voting for, " Do you wish to stop immigration into the UK and live in the 1950s?"
What we really voted for, " Who do you wish to run the right of UK politics?"
(Unless of course you live in Scotland where they believe the question was, " Do you want independent Scotland?")


Funny you should mention living in the 50's, the older generation have voted for a future the younger generation do not want. You can imagine the yoof of today saying "wait for the old feckers to die and we'll re-apply"
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 24 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

seems about right[/img]
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 24 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know if this is what the Remain campaign was worrying about.... but since our government(s) have sold off pretty much everything British (gas, electric, water, phones, post office, mining and even some bridges.... not to mention the sly selling off of the NHS and blaming the sick for using it... etc etc).... but since most of this stuff is now owned by Europe, what's to stop them just pulling the plug, removing all the useful machines from the factories and leaving us with nothing?

Pretty much like a messy divorce Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 24 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are about 10 people on my facebook feed winging about it and posting things about how we are doomed, no currency and people voted out for less immigrants. Everyone else has a life and doesn't live on social media craving social acknowledgement or whatever, people who do things voted to leave, people who like to whine and talk about if they should or shouldn't voted stay.
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 24 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bishbash II wrote:

Funny you should mention living in the 50's, the older generation have voted for a future the younger generation do not want. You can imagine the yoof of today saying "wait for the old feckers to die and we'll re-apply"

That's a massive generalisation, I know lots of young people who voted to leave, basically everyone who isn't a liberal or ethnic minority.

Seeing as they probably voted to join the EU, they have a right to go back on their decision. Young people only got slightly involved because of the registration extension/remain social media campaign. I doubt that many give a f**k, being bitter and jaded comes with age Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 24 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

andym wrote:
what's to stop them just pulling the plug, removing all the useful machines from the factories and leaving us with nothing?

Pretty much like a messy divorce Laughing



This has already happened. Through the 00s I had a Malaysian buddy. He used to come drinking with me sometimes.

He was employed by corporates and startups in Asia to disassemble factory machinery in the UK and to document it being taken apart. It would be taken apart and or cut into container sized loads and reassembled somewhere in Africa or Asia. Africa if it was obsolete stuff Asia if it was relatively new.
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 24 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
That's a massive generalisation, I know lots of young people who voted to leave, basically everyone who isn't a liberal or ethnic minority.


Firstly, it's not a generalisation at all, the stats were released, take a look, a very low % of all youth voted to stay, a ver large % of elders voted to leave, the route in between was at gradient by the age brackets.

M.C wrote:
Young people only got slightly involved because of the registration extension/remain social media campaign. I doubt that many give a f**k


This is probably and sadly true.

M.C wrote:
being bitter and jaded comes with age Laughing


Thirdly Laughing Laughing Laughing so so true!
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PostPosted: 21:55 - 24 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has the UK media given much coverage to the fact that even if the government invokes Article 50 and 'divorces' the UK from the EU that the EEA still stands?

And, for those too young to remember/ ignorant of the existence of the EEA, that's the agreement which determines free movement of persons, goods, services and capital throughout Europe and would still apply to the UK regardless of it's EU (non) membership status.

For the UK to reject the terms of the EEA would be complete idiocy...but that said, you lot have just voted to go it alone...

EDIT: On the positive side: Cameron's going and Trump is in Scotland, mebbe you could keep him as new PM? Pretty please, we don't want him back (happy to trade him for Boris, if you like)...
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 24 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

mentalboy wrote:
Has the UK media given much coverage to the fact that even if the government invokes Article 50 and 'divorces' the UK from the EU that the EEA still stands?.


Yes, yes they have. And Cameron wont commit to it, so next PM will have to, so Oct 2016 is the earliest at most, before anything happens.
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