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PostPosted: 14:52 - 20 Jun 2016    Post subject: Rip XT660Z & XJR 1300 Reply with quote

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YAMAHA will discontinue the XT660Z Tenere and XJR1300 at the end of the year.

The XJR1300 can trace its roots back 20 years to the XJR1200 launched in 1995 and although it was updated just last year, Yamaha has decided to drop it form the range because it won’t be making it Euro4 compliant.

The XT660Z Tenere is being discontinued for the same reason. The big muscle bike shaped hole left by the XJR might not be immediately filled, but the middleweight Tenere’s demise adds weight to our speculation that it’s likely to be replaced by the MT-07-engined adventure bike we spied testing in Italy in April – possibly called the XT700Z Tenere.

The XT660Z Tenere is also being discontinued


Yamaha is currently evaluating all its non-Euro4 complaint bikes. In deciding whether to make an engine meet Euro4 emissions and noise standard, the main considerations are whether it can be done, how much it will add to the cost of the bike and whether it will suffer in terms of performance.

Although these bikes won’t be listed on Yamaha’s site come next year, residual dealer stock means that you may still be able to pick them up new.


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PostPosted: 15:24 - 20 Jun 2016    Post subject: Re: Rip XT660Z & XJR 1300 Reply with quote

Loui5D wrote:
XJR1300


Dammit. That was always going to be my retirement present to myself.
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 20 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

No surprise the new XJR is being dropped, looks like the designers barfed up the design sheet and said "That'll do pig, that'll do". People wanted a proper muscle bike not a ghey cafe racer hybrid.
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 20 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with you there. The latest facelift is an utter fuckup.
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PostPosted: 23:54 - 20 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

waiting to see if they disco the YBR125's as well,
when I spoke to the dealer today they were very evasive, when I asked how they are going to make it euro4 compliant, especially given the newly arrived MT125ABS
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PostPosted: 07:14 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

They'll can it, it would need a rear disc as well as all the OBD / anti-tamper / Nanny Chip nonsense. Honda's new CB125F will go as well.

Lexmoto have let slip a few times that they're struggling to find any Chinese bikes that will satisfy all the Euro-bollocks.

Considering how small a market Europe is compared to Asia, it's hardly surprising if Whang Dong Motorcycles are just sodding it off.
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PostPosted: 07:17 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the XJR could be traced right back to the FJ1100.

Air cooled lump finished again. Won't be any left soon Sad
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PostPosted: 07:20 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite like the 'new' XJR actually and would consider buying one of the last in lines. I am becoming increasingly hip and cool though, so it figures. If only I could grow the beard.

As for the 125 debacle I think we're going to end up with very few compliant bikes to choose from and some serious price inflection as a result. It will literally never make more sense foe the youngsters to just do their test.
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PostPosted: 08:07 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the 660 was already discontinued. It doesn't meat the Euro4 spec, and they are going to bring in the XT700 anyway.

Similar reason as to why BMW have discounted their singles.

Looking forward to some decent twins replacing them.
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PostPosted: 08:16 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are BMW canning the G650GS globally then? They've dropped it in the UK this year, but I believe that's just them taking an item off the menu that nobody was ordering.

Thing is, we won't know what's going to survive Euro4geddon until the hammer actually falls. It's not just emissions, it's a whole raft of other cruft that needs bolted on, tested and certified to satisfy TUV Brussels. It may just not be worth the cost for low volume models, even if their engines meet Euro 4.
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PostPosted: 08:50 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
It's not just emissions, it's a whole raft of other cruft that needs bolted on, tested and certified to satisfy TUV Brussels.


I know ABS is one of the things. What 's the other stuff?
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PostPosted: 09:13 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

under_rated wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
It's not just emissions, it's a whole raft of other cruft that needs bolted on, tested and certified to satisfy TUV Brussels.


I know ABS is one of the things. What 's the other stuff?


Mostly emissions & noise.

Meaning they royally fuck up the fuelling and exhaust systems.
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PostPosted: 09:30 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

under_rated wrote:
I know ABS is one of the things. What 's the other stuff?

Off the top of my head:

Always-on lights.
Low evaporation fuel systems.
On Board Diagnostics.
Physical anti-tamper on A1 and A2 bikes, like weird fasteners and hardened rivets to try and stop exhaust replacement or de-cats.
Defeat-device defeater (Nanny Chips) to electronically prevent (e.g.) a Power Commander remap.

Imagine all of that on a Chinese budget 125.
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PostPosted: 09:44 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
under_rated wrote:
I know ABS is one of the things. What 's the other stuff?

Off the top of my head:

Always-on lights.
Low evaporation fuel systems.
On Board Diagnostics.
Physical anti-tamper on A1 and A2 bikes, like weird fasteners and hardened rivets to try and stop exhaust replacement or de-cats.
Defeat-device defeater (Nanny Chips) to electronically prevent (e.g.) a Power Commander remap.

Imagine all of that on a Chinese budget 125.


Incredible, I'm sure someone will find a way around it though, they always do.

RIP many bikes.

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PostPosted: 17:41 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best go out and start buying some decent old school second hand bikes then, like all those that have been doing it for the last 5years and being criticised for it.

If you want a fun, or mad or raucous bike soon, you have to restore and modify a classic instead. This is what all the people that keep putting their hand in their pockets for new bikes, while moaning about the looks and cheap plasticity parts, should have done ages ago, and saved a load of new tat from being made and sold.
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PostPosted: 18:47 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

Physical anti-tamper on A1 and A2 bikes, like weird fasteners and hardened rivets to try and stop exhaust replacement or de-cats.
Defeat-device defeater (Nanny Chips) to electronically prevent (e.g.) a Power Commander remap.

Imagine all of that on a Chinese budget 125.

Presumably not on bigger stuff? They don't have that type of thing on cars, so don't see why bikes would need it?
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PostPosted: 22:05 - 21 Jun 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

herulach wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:

Physical anti-tamper on A1 and A2 bikes, like weird fasteners and hardened rivets to try and stop exhaust replacement or de-cats.
Defeat-device defeater (Nanny Chips) to electronically prevent (e.g.) a Power Commander remap.

Imagine all of that on a Chinese budget 125.

Presumably not on bigger stuff? They don't have that type of thing on cars, so don't see why bikes would need it?


most of the regs for cars were snuck in years ago via the mot system and emissions rules and had a similar effect back then too if I remember correctly,
little things like resin in the diesel pump screws so it was harder to wind them up a "bit", I think it was 1992 when every petrol car had to have a cat, and it had to be in place for its mot. slowly lowering the emission pass levels etc
hell I can still remember when a diesel passed if you can see through the cloud Laughing
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