Parking Charge Notice FFS

[ian505050]

So........

A few weeks ago I offered to collected a friend from Leeds Station.

At Leeds Station which is a huge station there is a pick up spot for 4 cars that permanently have 4 Taxis parked in this space (right outside weatherspoons if you know the area)

As i could not stop on the road as it was very busy i pulled into the carpark to avoid blocking the access to the station.

I drove into a Car park next to the station with ANPR and popped the car into a spot and wandered over to the pay and display machine. I read the massive list of T&Cs they have on a big sign next to the ticket machine. I then reviewed the price list and as it was extortionate and i did not have sufficient change i jumped back in my car looked for another spot further away from the station that was not pay and display.

A few weeks down the line i get a ticket asking for £100 (£60) for being in the car park 10 minutes!!!! FFS

5 Minutes were spent getting in and out of the car park and the other 5 minutes were spent reading there T&Cs next to the ticket machine. So effectively i decided not to park.

I I don't mind paying for the 10 minutes i used the car park for to effectively turn round and not use, but i think its a little unfair expecting me to pay £100 (£60) for being stuck it there car park for 10 mins.

The company that issued the fine doe not have a contact telephone number. It only has an automated telephone number that i have called that accepts card payment.

Any advise as this has come at a time where i cant really afford to be wasting money paying fines like this.


Bastids

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[Rogerborg]

PePiPoo forums for form letters for sodding them off. You do actually have to appeal in writing, as it says, and follow the process to the letter.

Easy one though, you read the contract and declined to accept it (although 10 minutes? But let's not quarrel). It's not a "fine", it's a contractual charge, or a charge for breach of contract, depending on their mood. But since no contract exists, no court in the land will find in their favour.

However, because Parking Eye are vicious grasping thugs who don't give a stuff about the law, don't expect them to just drop it. You may very well find that they ramp up the charge to an obscene level and that they both threaten to and do actually file a small claim against you, at which point most punters cave in and pay up, or get a default judgement against them.

Don't be that punter. Show up, laugh off their huge dossier with the irrelevant Beavis decision on top of it, be prepared, reasonable and calm, and you will win. You should even be able to claim reasonable costs since their case is without merit and their behaviour will (I confidently predict) have been unreasonable.

Try to enjoy the process, but do follow it. If you ragequit, you lose.
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[ian505050]

[ian505050]

[Rogerborg]

That only applies when contractual parking has occurred. You declined to accept the contract, end-of.

I'd take care with any advice that you've received, it may be out of date. Parking Eye in particular file thousands of court cases every month (thanks to legislation that they said would reduce the number of cases) and since they won the landmark Beavis case in the Supreme Court they've got even more aggressive.

If you try any clever Freemental-on-the-land stuff then it's unlikely to end well. Just sticking to the "declined the massively overcomplicated contract" line should be a winning strategy if you're consistent and persistent.

https://www.parkingcowboys.co.uk/parking-eye/

https://www.parkingcowboys.co.uk/popla/
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[Skudd]

They have an office in Chorley. Gypos parked all over their car park not long ago for a month or so. They don't like you knocking on their door in person to have a little chat.
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[nelmo]

May be a bit late but I had this happen to me last year and went all the way to a small claims court. The decision was 'stayed' pending the Beavis appeal but I never heard any more.

My advice is to go direct to POPLA asap... I can't remember the exact procedure but PE reckoned they would have accepted POPLAs decision, which is almost always in your favour. I went to them too late, after the small claims procedure had already started.
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[P.]

Borg has given you the way out.

You did not agree to the charges and decided to leave. I'd take that and run with it.

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[dydey90]

For future reference, drive past the pick up/drop off point and go into the tiny car park just past it. Hover round, do a few laps, stick it in a disabled spot or whatever and then pootle away once you've picked up. Pretty sure there aren't any ANPR cameras in there.
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[Joncrete Cungle]

Or just do what I do and momentarily obscure your number plate as you pass the entrance / exit camera. The ANPR Parasite Eye use is seriously flawed, without your correct number plate they can't 'enforce' anything. Yeah, yeah I know 'tis an offence kittehs will perish and all that jazz.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2001/561/pdfs/uksi_20010561_en.pdf

[Pjay]

I had one of these from PE and appealed saying that I never entered into a contract with them, as it was not me driving my car.
They asked me who was, I replied back stating that I am no saying and they dropped it.

Well, they never sent another letter anyhow. This was about 8 months ago and I doubt they care anymore.

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