Pay rise/cuts

[Fladdem]

Greetings!

At work, back in April I was given a 23p payrise, because the minimum wage had gone up to 7.20 for over 25's, I am still 21.

The issue now is, today they took that away from me again, because I'm not 25. I don't have the balls to complain. I should really, especially as the others are all on at least 24K a year while I do the same work as them and more "extra curricular" activities. I sort the bins, I am in charge of the heating oil, the engine oil, the wheel weights. I work almost every Saturday when my contract says I only need to work one in five, I'm in early, home late every day and work through most lunch breaks. I'll do anything they ask of me, people even now come to me first for anything, like the other day I was going round tightening the barrier feet so they didn't wobble, I'll take customers cars back if necessary.

Where do I stand legally and how can I get the balls to either (a) complain or (b) hand in my notice and if (b) what would I need to put in it?

Thanks.
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[Sload]

Contract dependant.

What is your status? Apprentice, helper, qualified mech?

How indispensable are you?

How much do you contribute to the business, not what you think you contribute?

Are you a cost or a benefit?

Do you actually have a grounds to challenge for a payrise etc?
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[Fladdem]

I'm a qualified mechanic. I have the same title as the others, I just lack the confidence in my own ability.

Currently, they could throw me away without a moments hesitation, a few months ago our team of five had gone down to two for a month then back up to three, we were fully staffed up until this morning where a lad got the sack, back down to four again.

In April, I could have said whatever I wanted and they would have agreed. Instead I worked harder than ever, I did 258 hours worth of work in 189 hours, this month I achieved 133. But everyone buys new cars in April because of plate vanity, so we have all the first services in, new car prep, used car prep after trade ins, same in September.

I don't have any idea how much I'm making the company a month though. But I'm not in the good books at the moment and I'm not entirely sure why.
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Past:2003 Aprilia RS125, 1982 Kawasaki GPZ550(FREE BIKE!)
I'm having more fun than a well-oiled midget.

[Ste]

[Jewlio Rides Again LLB]

You sound like I did when I first started. Luckily, I've not found myself in that position wage wise, as I'm salaried. They've taken on an absolute bell end in my old position now though, which makes me wonder why I grafted my plums off when he gets paid for doing fuck all.

How long have you been there? Ask for a meeting, but prepare first to collate why you feel you're deserving of this. I don't know what field you work in, but may be worth looking elsewhere in the meantime.
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[Sload]

Seek employment elsewhere, sell yourself with more confidence and expect a wage to suit, keep your mouth shut while you are looking.

I dont actually generate income where I work but earn better then you are pulling by a fair margin. I basically save them costs and downtime by costing them money. As long as what I save them is considerably more then they pay for me I am a beneficial cost.

Diversify your skills and keep moving up
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Honda Varadero >> Triumph Speed Four >> Honda CBR1100xx

[duhawkz]

[Sload]

He has probably penned himself in now though, if he cuts that down they may try to lose him.

One thing to learn Flad is this is business. What we be saying might sound harsh but it is just business. Fulfil the obligations you agreed, go beyond if you choose too but don't expect reciprocal behaviour.

You will know when you are with a good employer, you wont have to beg, they will appreciate your contribution, advise you on deficits and reward you appropriately.
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Honda Varadero >> Triumph Speed Four >> Honda CBR1100xx

[Rogerborg]

[Alan1986]

The way you wrote your post you seem like a worker,
I was doing the same for years, working hard at companies and doing more than I should and getting no pay rises,

I was funding my own education also, one company I worked for hired some training bloke who sent all the office staff on courses, even sent them on one I self funded for myself,
I ended writing him a letter trying to keep it professional asking for course advice and a meeting, I was a shop floor guy at the time wiring machinery,
Cunt never even replied, I ended up handing my notice in,
Went through similar experiences with other companies and just used the moves for pay rises and experience,

I am now on 30 plus k a year and had a substantial payrise from my current employer, more than I ever would have got from my previous employers, they could no longer afford me and are now beneath my skill level,

COMPANIES CAN HOLD YOU BACK,
remember that as it is true,
My experience has been move on and look after yourself to be honest
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[i1301243]

My Accord needs a clutch changing. How much would you charge?

[dydey90]

[Rogerborg]

In a workplace that's got form for turfing people out? Blue collar? You'd be out on your ear for the crime of disloyalty to the tiny empire.

Secure a better job somewhere else then just leave. Based on what OP has said, I wouldn't even try to negotiate, because what happens if you turn down the other offer then find yourself spite-sacked a month later.

Familiarity breeds contempt. OP needs a reboot.
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[stevo as b4]

Hi Fladdemeir.

Sorry to hear that your Honda shop is treating you like shit. I agree with the others,that you've done too much extra stuff for too long and boxed yourself in there with no chance of getting what you want now. Also you can be one of the best employees, very good at your job and be nice and helpful to everyone, but people still hate you!

I've been there in jobs/departments, where I speak to everyone,smile and listen to people and thier bullshit and try to be extra helpful and get on with people. It didn't take long to realise that in work places with lots of people that this approach alienates you and people will start to pick you out and hate you/not respect you at all, for being too nice or doing more than you have to, or being a spineless prick.

Lastly I dunno if it's any use? But Bristol Street Ford/Fiat at Worcester are looking for qualified mechanics currently. It said something about 25k salary, but I don't know anything about them or anyone that works there.

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[M.C]

23p isn't much when you work it out, I wouldn't kick up a fuss over it. Don't get me wrong you'd rather have it than not , but it sounds like the problem's more how they're treating you than what they're paying you.

Regarding all this extra effort/hours bollocks, I used to do the same, and used to get treated slightly better (always offered overtime first etc.). Then management started being dicks to everyone so I did what duhawkz said, not doing any extra favours, just doing my hours/taking all my breaks and naffing off home.

I'm enjoying my job more than ever When an employer feels they can take advantage of you they will, they also start to rely on all the extra stuff you do, then only when you stop do they actually appreciate it.

EDIT: forgot a (possible) solution Seek out alternative employment, its the only real way to change things for yourself, a dickhead employer isn't going to change.

[Nb]

Is this place where you did your apprenticeship? If so you will always be looked upon as an apprentice by older workers and they will mug you off for life. Do you have your level 3 qualification? If you do you could join the rac/aa or get your mot licence.
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[MCN]

FUCK OFF SOMEWHERE DIFFERENT!!!

If you get a chance to change change. You may be/feel exploited at the next place too but at least it'll not be the cuts you are with now.

FIFO - Fit In or Fuck Off
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[Robby]

[Ste]

[Fladdem]

[Pete.]

[Andy_Pagin]

MTFU, depending on the size of the company either write to your manager or the CEO. Politely explain in detail all the extra stuff & hours you do, and ask if you can have back the 23p.

Employers tend to notice the layabouts, but often miss the quiet workaholics who are often the mainstay of the business. If they don't wake up, move on.
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