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PostPosted: 16:01 - 03 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes people stand because the lulz.

Blah blah Gordon Brown blah... never mind that, what's the Landless Peasant Party?

https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/wpid-article-1273207230403-0976cd65000005dc-970793_636x376.jpg

Good on them too, it reminds the careerists that the process is not a solemn coronation to be conducted in hushed tones and obsequiousness, and they might be the ones standing at the back next time.
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PostPosted: 16:41 - 03 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jewlio Rides Again wrote:

I never said it didn't cost money. You said why do they bother.

Some people spend their money on coke and whores. Some people just blow that money on something they have no chance of winning. No different to spending it on the lottery, really.

Doh! Why do they bother... spending the money, spending the time to get a handful of votes. Those numbers are truly pathetic, most people with a facebook account could do better.

Fair enough £500 isn't a huge amount of money to lose, but people do the same thing with the (London) mayoral elections, where it's a 10k deposit.

Rogerborg wrote:

Blah blah Gordon Brown blah... never mind that, what's the Landless Peasant Party?

https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/wpid-article-1273207230403-0976cd65000005dc-970793_636x376.jpg

Good on them too, it reminds the careerists that the process is not a solemn coronation to be conducted in hushed tones and obsequiousness, and they might be the ones standing at the back next time.

His show of defiance didn't last long, the poor guys arm got tired Smile
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PostPosted: 17:55 - 03 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

They probably say the same of folk who blow 000's on motorbikes Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 04 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nazi in Austria lost, now it's up to the Italians to bottle it
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 04 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob Fzs wrote:
Nazi in Austria lost, now it's up to the Italians to bottle it


So Italy's voted 'no' and after the elections, will likely have a really left wing parliament wanting to take them out of the EU.

However, in typical Italian fashion, they'll have a government which wants to leave but simultaneously voted against putting into place an easy way of doing it...
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PostPosted: 23:54 - 04 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

gorillaonabike wrote:
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Nazi in Austria lost, now it's up to the Italians to bottle it


So Italy's voted 'no' and after the elections, will likely have a really left wing parliament wanting to take them out of the EU.

However, in typical Italian fashion, they'll have a government which wants to leave but simultaneously voted against putting into place an easy way of doing it...


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PostPosted: 00:10 - 05 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob Fzs wrote:
Nazi in Austria lost

The broadly pro-EU Nazi who was fairly moderate on immigration?

Oh, you mean the chap who wasn't a watermelon, and who therefore by a process of elimination therefore must have been somewhere to the right of Hitler.

I am surprised though, I thought Austria would have gone Nazi, and the Italians would have surrendered to Progetto di Terrore. It's looking like the other way around.

Not that their communist[*] leader will make good on his promise to sling his hook, but every little helps.

[*] Not Hitler, therefore must be Stalin.
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PostPosted: 00:53 - 05 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Rob Fzs wrote:
Nazi in Austria lost

The broadly pro-EU Nazi who was fairly moderate on immigration?

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I am surprised though, I thought Austria would have gone Nazi, and the Italians would have surrendered to Progetto di Terrore. It's looking like the other way around.

Not that their communist[*] leader will make good on his promise to sling his hook, but every little helps.

[*] Not Hitler, therefore must be Stalin.


Don't worry, the Austrian ex-Nazi party will have an opportunity to win everything in 2018. They're way ahead in the polling, an absolutely massive lead, so BNP72 will have somewhere nice to go on holiday. Austria has a little bit of a track record where it comes to white supremacy.

I don't believe LePen will get in because the way the French Presidential system works means the National Front get a really good vote in the first round but lose in the last. The British papers (Daily Mail and Express) were exaggerating her lead and it would be a major surprise if she won, bigger than Trump or Brexit. Still, you never know...

However, unless the Italian left wingers change their mind, they'll be pulling Italy out of the EU. Shocked
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PostPosted: 01:23 - 05 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

gorillaonabike wrote:
Austria has a little bit of a track record where it comes to white supremacy.

Whatever could you mean Thinking
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PostPosted: 09:31 - 05 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

gorillaonabike wrote:
white supremacy

Is crimethink, but 'ethnic advocacy' is goodthink, as long as the ethnic group is darker than a paper bag, and regardless of which group is actually a minority (see Viennese primary schools).

Ain't language marvellous?


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However, unless the Italian left wingers change their mind, they'll be pulling Italy out of the EU. Shocked

I doubt it. Their economy is, if not circling the drain, at least bobbing around in the sink. Like Greece, they have to make a decision between going it alone, or going cap in hand to Brussels Berlin to be bailed out.

I'd like to think they'll go for the former, but I fear the fire has gone out of Greek and Roman bellies.
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PostPosted: 10:09 - 05 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

gorillaonabike wrote:
However, unless the Italian left wingers change their mind, they'll be pulling Italy out of the EU. Shocked


They'd be stupid if they tried. They are basically near the same situation as Greece.
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 05 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They'd be stupid if they tried.

Brexit, Trump. How's belittling the intelligence of the majority who disagree with you working out as a tool of persuasion?

I doubt that they will escape the Euro and Berlin's increasingly naked rule, but I'll cross my fingers for them. With an ageing population, a creaking socialist state, a brain drain and being forcibly enriched from the south, I honestly can't see how they can turn their economy and county around unless they have control over their own currency, borders and policies.
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PostPosted: 10:58 - 05 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
gorillaonabike wrote:
However, unless the Italian left wingers change their mind, they'll be pulling Italy out of the EU. Shocked


They'd be stupid if they tried. They are basically near the same situation as Greece.


Italy is allegedly significantly more robust than Greece but I have no idea. Practical economics 101 otherwise known as why the single currency was a botched job. All other things being equal, can't simultaneously attempt to control both interest rates and currency and Italy's had issues because of it. 'Issues' meaning unemployment etc...

However, Italy has one, teensy little hurdle before trying to push the button on article 50. Specifically, the party likely to be in power and claiming to want to trigger article 50, voted against reforms that would allow the triggering of article 50.

Normal Italian politics.
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 05 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
RhynoCZ wrote:
They'd be stupid if they tried.

Brexit, Trump. How's belittling the intelligence of the majority who disagree with you working out as a tool of persuasion?

I doubt that they will escape the Euro and Berlin's increasingly naked rule, but I'll cross my fingers for them. With an ageing population, a creaking socialist state, a brain drain and being forcibly enriched from the south, I honestly can't see how they can turn their economy and county around unless they have control over their own currency, borders and policies.


Their only way out is to either stay in the EU and drain more money from the system OR leave and break the Italy into a federation of some sort, separating the North from the South, which is something, I do believe, people of the Nothern part of Italy want. I know I would.

It's soon to tell, even the Brexit is just a ''all mouth'' even at the moment. There's one thing for sure though, Italy is not the UK. Meaning Italy does not have the £££ to support the poor south, just like England supports Scotland.

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However, Italy has one, teensy little hurdle before trying to push the button on article 50. Specifically, the party likely to be in power and claiming to want to trigger article 50, voted against reforms that would allow the triggering of article 50.

Normal Italian politics.


It almost feels like Italians said no in the referendum, just to get rid of Matteo Renzi, who stupidly/cunningly said he'll resign if people say no in the referendum.
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 05 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goldsmithonian levels of hubris. Whistle

gorillaonabike wrote:
Italy is allegedly significantly more robust than Greece

Greece is in free fall. I suspect that Italy are doing a Wile E. Coyote and are still running in mid air at the moment.

They have an ageing population with a catastrophically low birth rate of just 1.4 children per woman (pro-tip: you can't fix that by importing millions of excess penises). Their workforce is composed of mardy pinkos with unreasonable demands and expectations about their jobs, pay and retirement. They've out-borrowed their capability to repay their debts, both personally and nationally, and close to 20% of their banks' debts are "non performing" (i.e. bad).

The kicker is that I understand that individual Italians tend to buy bonds in Italian banks as investments, which means that writing off the bad debts of the profligate will directly screw over the prudent.

Of course, none of that applies to the UK. Exclamation Nobody look down Exclamation
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PostPosted: 09:18 - 20 Jan 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 15:12 - 11 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theresa May hires Daily Mail as a spokesman:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-daily-mail-political-editor-james-slack-appointment-a7557696.html

My guess is the next PM will be Murdoch no need for the middleman.

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PostPosted: 01:52 - 12 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
I take it you realise that many politicians write for newspapers?


Not many politicains are hired by Murdoch... I hope Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 13 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
Val wrote:

Not many politicains are hired by Murdoch... I hope Laughing


Any of you mates Val?

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/people-smugglers-jailed-for-trading-120492/


No, but I am sure these are your mates:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/aug/30/five-teenage-boys-arrested-after-man-dies-following-attack-in-essex
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PostPosted: 03:29 - 14 Feb 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd is the nazi that Archibishop Welby has mention today. Fact

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/feb/13/archbishop-suggests-brexit-fascist-tradition

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