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9danielos5
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PostPosted: 12:43 - 14 Aug 2016    Post subject: Three 125cc Hondas to choose from Reply with quote

Hello folks !

I'm getting a new bike and I can't decide which one to get.

I have three options to choose from

Honda PCX:

https://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/range/scooter/pcx-2015/specifications.html

Honda CBF125:

https://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/range/125cc/cbf125-2013/overview.html

Honda MSX 125:

https://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/range/125cc/msx125-2013/overview.html


I'm gonna use the bike to commute to and from work through London and for out of town rides on the weekends and local commuting.

PCX seems like the most reasonable bike for my type of riding but Im not too keen on getting a scooter.

Would you recommend that CBF?

Let me hear your opinions.
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 14 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

None of those. Yamaha YBR?

Why do you only have 3 options?

What licence do you have?
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 14 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBF125 will be my choice given the fact you want to use it out of London too.

Otherwise PCX is overrated SH is better Honda scooter.
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PostPosted: 13:03 - 14 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was only having a look and picked those three, two of my friends have PCXs and they are happy with them, I was looking more towards CBF than PCX. I had a look at Yamaha YBR and it looks good aswell to me.

Also, PCX is liquid cooled and the rest of them including Yamaha is air cooled, which one would you say is better.
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 14 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

New new or new to you?

New new, non because 125.

New to you CBF 125.
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 14 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be my second bike, I've had a AJS DD125 cruiser bike for a year now. I dont fancy a scooter really, prefer something manual and I'm thinking now about Honda CBF and Yamaha YBR, just to make it clear I do ride a lot with a passanger.
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 14 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

MSX125 with a pillion? Shocked Laughing You realise how small they're right?

Geared 125's are a pain in the are, especially in London. Unless you plan on getting a bigger bike later on I'd go with the scooter. PCX's what the cool kids are riding Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 14 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just had a look at few videos of the MSX125 and I didn't realise they are that tiny Shocked

I'm thinking about PCX and CBF125 now, tomorrow I'm going to a Honda dealer near me and I'm gonna have a close look at both of them.

Anymore owners of those two bikes?
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 14 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:

Geared 125's are a pain in the are, especially in London. Unless you plan on getting a bigger bike later on I'd go with the scooter.


I have not ridden in London but I don't really get this. I have ridden both a scooter and a geared 125 in pretty heavy traffic and I would have to say that the geared is my preference. It take a bit more work than a scooter but is much more rewarding and engaging to ride and it is possible to achieve much more subtle slow speed control, as you work the gears and the clutch. Frequency of gear changes was not particularly problematic and you could ride around town all day using mostly 2nd and 3rd gear, with the obvious exception of stopping at lights and junctions. I'd certainly rather the geared for those weekend rides the OP mentions.

Oh and I also much prefer the riding position on a "proper" bike, as opposed to a scooter. I found on a scooter that I was constantly wanting to lean forwards into a more bikeish position anyway and the scooter felt like being perched on a stool, going at some speed. Pillion seat might be more comfortable than some scooters though.
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 14 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The mini bike wouldn't be the best for London in my opinion as your head may only be the height of a cab's door mirror making you less visible.

When I first started riding I was facing a commute through the centre of Slough and into Uxbridge - I bought a Varadero 125 for the extra height and road presence which worked well.

the PCX is a motorbike with it's soul ripped out, shat on, inserted into whatever weird porn scene Ste's found lately and dropped down a well

The CBF 125 / YBR 125 are both good all round 125cc bikes, they're never going to stir your emotions beyond the "hey, I'm on a motorbike, this is awesome" when you first start riding but they'll do the job and do it well while holding re-sale value.


So, the answer is, provided your legs are longer than Oscar Pistorius, get a Varadero, we've tested them to distraction on this forum including riding one through a stone wall with help from a peugeot and they are brilliant bikes.
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 14 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

MSX 125 for giggles Thumbs Up

the new, new CBF 125 felt horrible when I sat on one

the old, new CBF 125 2014 ish, was okayish, poorly built, burned oil, needed fettling, would go over 300 miles on a tankful, could hold 60mph on twisty country roads, got blown about all over the place in moderate winds, and was chuffing horrible with a pillion
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PostPosted: 08:13 - 15 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

9danielos5 wrote:
just to make it clear I do ride a lot with a passanger.

So, you have a license? You were talking about getting A2 then "a Yamaha XV535 Virago or taking a finance on the new Harley Davidson Street 750"

Why would you go to the expense of getting a license, but then waste your money buying a brand new tiddler bike? Thinking

We're still waiting for an update on your AJS.

I'll just put the Pass the popcorn on.
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PostPosted: 11:13 - 15 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The CBF125 were the rusty ones I think, my brother had one, he has a CB125F now, much better built. However if it was just city riding only I would opt for the twist and go.
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 15 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

KnightsFall wrote:

I have not ridden in London but I don't really get this. I have ridden both a scooter and a geared 125 in pretty heavy traffic and I would have to say that the geared is my preference. It take a bit more work than a scooter but is much more rewarding and engaging to ride and it is possible to achieve much more subtle slow speed control, as you work the gears and the clutch. Frequency of gear changes was not particularly problematic and you could ride around town all day using mostly 2nd and 3rd gear, with the obvious exception of stopping at lights and junctions. I'd certainly rather the geared for those weekend rides the OP mentions.

Oh and I also much prefer the riding position on a "proper" bike, as opposed to a scooter. I found on a scooter that I was constantly wanting to lean forwards into a more bikeish position anyway and the scooter felt like being perched on a stool, going at some speed. Pillion seat might be more comfortable than some scooters though.

Problem with a geared 125's you're either changing gear or thinking about changing gear all the time. With a big bike you don't really have this issue, but still if you have a heavy clutch it can be a pain.

I'm not a fan of scooters either, and I agree about the riding position, but if I was going to have a 125 in the city with no intention of upgrading (so wanting the geared experience) I'd seriously consider a scootay.
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PostPosted: 12:47 - 15 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark65 wrote:
The CBF125 were the rusty ones I think, my brother had one, he has a CB125F now, much better built.

Early reports seem OK, but then they did on the CBF as well. Given the corrosion issues on the MSX and even the flagship Africa Twin, I wouldn't be putting much trust in Honda QC any more.

Anyway, let's hear about his license situation. Something's peculiar there.
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 15 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
9danielos5 wrote:
just to make it clear I do ride a lot with a passanger.

So, you have a license? You were talking about getting A2 then "a Yamaha XV535 Virago or taking a finance on the new Harley Davidson Street 750"

Why would you go to the expense of getting a license, but then waste your money buying a brand new tiddler bike? Thinking

We're still waiting for an update on your AJS.

I'll just put the Pass the popcorn on.

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PostPosted: 13:09 - 15 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Given the corrosion issues on the MSX


got a linky buddy? mines been ace!
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 15 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrbox wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
Given the corrosion issues on the MSX

got a linky buddy? mines been ace!

"Flux" from new. Whistle

The heat shield on the exhaust apparently goes early. Northern Monkey mentioned that on his. You might want to have a look at your caliper pistons as well.

Not Victor Devine levels, but about what we've come to expect from a modern 125 made in Thailand (or India or China) to a budget. Given that they're knocking on the door of £3K now, I was hoping for a bit better.
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 15 Aug 2016    Post subject: re Reply with quote

i commute through central london everyday on a 125 geared, not too bad to be honest and much better in traffic i find than scooters due to clutch control and slow speed manouveres, will hopefully get a 600 soon as may need to do some motorway riding, when i feel like getting bent over for DAS
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 15 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:

Problem with a geared 125's you're either changing gear or thinking about changing gear all the time. With a big bike you don't really have this issue, but still if you have a heavy clutch it can be a pain.

I'm not a fan of scooters either, and I agree about the riding position, but if I was going to have a 125 in the city with no intention of upgrading (so wanting the geared experience) I'd seriously consider a scootay.


As I say, not a London rider but, for what it is worth, I did not find it all that bad, with not a ridiculous frequency in gear changes and the possibility of Using only a few gears in practice (not a lot different to a lower powered car). I also found the greater subtlety that can be achieved to be worth the effort. Certainly possible to get a bike without a heavy clutch pull. It was pretty light on the YBR.

But of course, to each their own.
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PostPosted: 07:41 - 16 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a hornet to commute from just outside Romford to central London 20 miles each way I wasn't enjoying it on the hornet as i hadn't had a bike since 17 so the experience was new to me so i took it home and bought a PCX whilst i got used to the traffic down here.
It did everything i expected it too and pulled my 15 stone round quite well but it needed a bit more power in my opinion so i bought a burgman 400.
The PCX was bought as a tool for me to get to work and is still in the garage at the digs where are you? come have a look and a quick spin if you are near me.
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PostPosted: 10:32 - 16 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

i had no issues with my PCX at all.
only issue is that the 3 oiks that stole my PCX where riding on two PCX's

they totally ignored the other two peds on the street.

when i got it back they where seen a couple of evenings later passing the house.

again no interest in the other peds.

given the popularity of the PCX is it cheaper to steal for parts than buy new parts ?
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 17 Aug 2016    Post subject: Re: Three 125cc Hondas to choose from Reply with quote

9danielos5 wrote:
Hello folks !

I'm getting a new bike and I can't decide which one to get.

I have three options to choose from

Honda PCX:

https://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/range/scooter/pcx-2015/specifications.html

Honda CBF125:

https://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/range/125cc/cbf125-2013/overview.html

Honda MSX 125:

https://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/range/125cc/msx125-2013/overview.html


I'm gonna use the bike to commute to and from work through London and for out of town rides on the weekends and local commuting.

PCX seems like the most reasonable bike for my type of riding but Im not too keen on getting a scooter.

Would you recommend that CBF?

Let me hear your opinions.


I bought a Honda Forza 125 (ABS) for exactly that. Been to and from London to youghal twice (once through Holyhead, and once through Pembrook). London to south Wales, London to Bristol, etc all trips in a single day. And it was AWESOME.

70-75 i had 30kgs weight (chains and such) on motorway(as against my brother's pcx 60) fully loaded(and forza is a bit of a T.A.R.D.I.S. when it comes to"under the seat". Feels like a bigger bike, you ride high and firm, but you pay pennies for fuel, and all the extras just make it all worthwhile.



It's just... fantastic Wink
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 17 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinK98 wrote:

given the popularity of the PCX is it cheaper to steal for parts than buy new parts ?

Certain scooters are targeted, often its the ones that have a bigger variant (like the Vespa 125/300 etc.). Maybe there's something they particularly like about the PCX.
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 20 Aug 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've ridden my MSX with a pillion, for about 5 miles. It's not recommended.

It's the one I'd pick out of the 3 you suggested though, but also the most nickable.

Exhaust is made from cheese though. Expect to replace it with a SS version after a couple of years
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