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I was thinking this through a little more and thought I wonder whether there's a piece in the background that says F1 is a no-go if you've not got the relevant degree and that black people are under-represented in universities.
Found this - eye opening:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50377708193_ed286f5799.jpg
Participation in universities overall has fallen through the deck but BAME % against population has grown whilst white % has dropped. |
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Trump has taken steps to get rid of CRT from federal institutions and contractors to such. I think that is a correct move.
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Everyone needs to stop being snowflakes, on all sides. |
There is an ideological war going on, mostly in the US, but here too. It is not snowflakery on either side, but is deadly serious - has been in many cases literally deadly serious. Just because one doesn't follow it closely, doesn't mean it is not happening, and ideological wars in small parts of a population can quickly overspill into wider society. Everyone in the US said, "oh, this is just happening in a few universities, and it will just fizzle out there". Tell people who live in Portland or Seattle or Chicago or Kenosha etc etc that it has just fizzled out in the universities where it started.
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If someone could only point out to me where our laws and institutions, or those of the US, are actually racist? I mean, I see that there are people with racist views within those institutions and elsewhere, but they seem to me to be in a very small minority, and I just can't find where anything mandates that they be so.
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| Ribenapigeon wrote: | | chickenstrip wrote: | If someone could only point out to me where our laws and institutions, or those of the US, are actually racist? I mean, I see that there are people with racist views within those institutions and elsewhere, but they seem to me to be in a very small minority, and I just can't find where anything mandates that they be so. |
Maybe read the research done by the academics who study this stuff? |
Lol. Academics are half the problem. Where do you think this stuff is coming from? However, feel free to post some examples of what these 'academics' are saying. And why they are saying it, if you think you can explain that.
Academia eh?:
https://reaction.life/its-time-to-cull-and-reform-our-sham-woke-universities/
| Quote: | Years ago, an American commentator described North American campuses as “small, ivy-covered North Koreas”. The same now applies to Britain. It is not just a case of scuffles in quadrangles: the totalitarian “woke” culture has devastated the academic curriculum. To take just one example, in 2018 Oxford University’s philosophy department, in order to attract more women students, instructed its “diversity and equality officer” to compose a new reading list comprising 40 per cent female authors. Since the classical canon of philosophy was overwhelmingly male, serious philosophers had to be displaced to make way for unknown women. |
Oh, and please don't come up with the book "Anti Racist Baby", or I might have to hit you with "My First Little Book of Intersectional Activism" - and I mean literally hit you over the head with it, since if you read it, you'd probably take it as a serious academic study 
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Edit: Also note that the stand your ground law is precisely why the charges against the boyfriend for shooting at police were dropped fairly sharpish. |
With the couple of cases (I've seen so far) of where BLM have confronted people with Trump signs on their property, their own homes, who then came out to face them with guns because they were concerned they might have to defend their property and families, didn't actually shoot anyone but then were arrested, is that a similar thing? I must admit, I find it all very confusing 
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| chickenstrip wrote: | | mentalboy wrote: |
Edit: Also note that the stand your ground law is precisely why the charges against the boyfriend for shooting at police were dropped fairly sharpish. |
With the couple of cases (I've seen so far) of where BLM have confronted people with Trump signs on their property, their own homes, who then came out to face them with guns because they were concerned they might have to defend their property and families, didn't actually shoot anyone but then were arrested, is that a similar thing? I must admit, I find it all very confusing |
Yup, same thing, although the courts might take a dim view of you if those people are still on the public pavement. No doubt those cases you are thinking of had the same outcome as the boyfriend in the Taylor case even if they didn't discharge those weapons, as in, all charges dismissed?
Any member of the public can be, and is likely to be, arrested for waving a gun at other people wherever it happens to take place, it is then the gun toter's right to claim stand your ground law and the DA will then consider the charges in relation to stand your ground and drop them if justifed.
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The police had a no-knock warrant (they say that although they had that warrant they still shouted they were coming in, neighbours are disputing that) and they were looking for the boyfriend that she had split up with two years previously. If you are the type that sleep's with a gun under the pillow, are woken abruptly by shouting and people in your house -one of whom you think might be your g/f's nutty ex-boyfriend drug dealer - what are you going to do?
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See now that's a nice way of spinning it to make it seem like she had nack all to do with the guy but it's totally disingenuous and ignores several key facts. Broke up with him two years previously, yeah sure, but, nothing to do with him? Hmm.... let me see:
https://eu.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/breonna-taylor/2020/09/23/minute-by-minute-timeline-breonna-taylor-shooting/3467112001/
Dec. 30: Police execute three search warrants in the Russell neighborhood, seizing several guns and narcotics. Among the six people subsequently arrested is Jamarcus Glover, Taylor's ex-boyfriend.
Jan. 2: Using a surveillance camera, police see a white Chevrolet Impala pull up in front of 2424 Elliott Ave. — one of the houses hit with a search warrant a few days earlier. Glover gets out of the passenger side of the car, which is registered to Taylor.
Jan. 16: Glover is seen driving to Taylor's Springfield Drive apartment and walking inside. After a brief stay, police see Glover leave with "a suspected USPS package" and then drives to a house on West Muhammad Ali Boulevard, which was also hit with a search warrant on Dec. 30.
Feb. 14: After an officer tows his car from West Muhammad Ali Boulevard, Glover attempts to file a complaint against the officer. The phone number he gave on the complaint was registered to Taylor.
In the affidavit for the warrant, Jaynes wrote that:
Glover's car had made "frequent" trips to Taylor's Springfield Drive apartment.
Glover walked directly into Taylor's apartment on Jan. 16.
A U.S. postal inspector verified Glover received packages at Taylor's apartment.
Taylor's car had been seen in front of Elliott Avenue on "different occasions."
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Croydon shooting: Officer shot dead at police station.
Now obviously it could be anyone of any ethnicity however this comment in the article from the police....
Asked about how someone could enter the building while armed, former Det Ch Insp Chris Phillips said: "I think police officers are probably less likely to search people now with all the furore that goes on.
Obviously what really matters is how we are getting in the situation where gun carrying in the UK is OK and the fact that the BLM howlings has contributed to the police not searching people because they are frightened of upsetting whoever has to stop.
It doesn't matter who actually pulled the trigger, the fact the cops feel that they have to do things in a certain way because of mob rule needs to be addressed strongly and positively and sod people being offended.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54293111
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| Polarbear wrote: | Croydon shooting: Officer shot dead at police station.
Now obviously it could be anyone of any ethnicity however this comment in the article from the police....
Asked about how someone could enter the building while armed, former Det Ch Insp Chris Phillips said: "I think police officers are probably less likely to search people now with all the furore that goes on.
Obviously what really matters is how we are getting in the situation where gun carrying in the UK is OK and the fact that the BLM howlings has contributed to the police not searching people because they are frightened of upsetting whoever has to stop.
It doesn't matter who actually pulled the trigger, the fact the cops feel that they have to do things in a certain way because of mob rule needs to be addressed strongly and positively and sod people being offended.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54293111 |
Or a copper knows what to say to stir the pot a bit. I'm sure it's shit being a police officer at the moment but the idea that at a custody centre officers are scared to search someone is bullshit. On the street with every tit with an apple phone pointed at them then maybe but not in a police facility. Try not to let anyone yank your chain, BLM, Greta or Plod. |
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The Lancet a good enough source? |
A link or quote would be welcome.
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So...no, the Lancet is not good enough (I've never seen anything they've published before). That article is absolute dross. The minute I saw the word "inequities" I started to be suspicious, and the rest of the article confirmed those suspicions.
As far as I can see, it doesn't quote anything in law or anywhere else that mandates discrimination by race or gender. This is what I asked you to point out to me, and you haven't. I'll wait a bit longer, maybe you just haven't had time yet.
Perhaps you'd also like to tell me a bit about the authors of that article, their qualifications and experience, since you have accepted they are an authoritative source. You might also explain why you agree with what the article says.
I thought about pulling the article apart bit by bit, but what would be the point here? Your mind is clearly made up, and I consider your views to be part of the problem, if they align with this article. We must accept that our views are unreconcilable, which doesn't surprise me because, as I recall, you supported the idea of a Corbyn government, which would have allowed for more of this nonsense to enter our society. I am staunchly against allowing this to happen.
It's probably now time for you to call me a racist nazi
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Can someone point out a person to me who lives without bias, conscious or unconscious?
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