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PostPosted: 18:58 - 18 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
I’m trying to think back. In what way was, “It ‘Ain’t Half Hot, Mum” racist?
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 18 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Certainly if you asked anyone in a particular theatre they'd have a low opinion of him but it's easy to second guess the guy above you when you only have a limited view of the situation.

With hindsight the Allies should have left the Nazis and Soviets duke it out and steam-rollered over whomever was left. Coming over all moral high ground in WW2 just led to many, many millions more dying in the Cold War Sad


I was just answering Chikenstrips straightforward question on how i was introduced to politics. Why i mention my grandmother is because she was born in 1906, her perspective was way ahead of your twenty year old wokest who thinks they invented being conscious about race issues or re-examining historical tropes such as Winston Churchills hero status. She did refer to black people as darkies though but she despised the National Front and was appalled when i bought a black shirt when it became fashionable during the new wave.

Did you know Churchill actually wanted to keep going to Moscow but knew there would have been no stomach for it in the British or American public.
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 18 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
I’m trying to think back. In what way was, “It ‘Ain’t Half Hot, Mum” racist?


It wasn't in of itself but there was a character in it who was a blacked up white actor.
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 18 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I simply don't recognise your narrative. Oh well. It seems to me your grandmother was trying to teach you NOT to go in for identity politics. Seems she failed.


I think your obbsesing over identity politics.
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 18 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
Churchill's life has been examined ad nauseam. There is nothing new to say there, good, bad or otherwise, unless new evidence or documentation from the period is unearthed. Have you found something new?
I have yet to learn about someone who is perfect. Do you know of such a figure?
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 18 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I simply don't recognise your narrative. Oh well. It seems to me your grandmother was trying to teach you NOT to go in for identity politics. Seems she failed.


I think your obbsesing over identity politics.


It's the subject of this thread, as in BLACK lives matter Wink
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 18 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
chickenstrip wrote:


It's the subject of this thread, as in BLACK lives matter Wink


No denial you're obsessed then Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 18 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
No, I don't think so. It's very tiring, isn't it? Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:27 - 19 Jul 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Did you know Churchill actually wanted to keep going to Moscow but knew there would have been no stomach for it in the British or American public.


This would have been after Dunkirk, North African... the waltz across Europe to get to Berlin was no picnic - Bridge Too Far and all that - poor timing. The Nazis lost the war before 1939, why not wait for it all to implode instead Smile

As to It Ain't 'Arf Hot Mum there were some racial stereotypes. A hanging offense now apparently Neutral The "blacked up" actor was actually Indian... just white indian, like Cliff Richard. It's the same deal as straight ppl playing queers being frowned upon or Idris Elba not really being Black enough to play a black man Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 03 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58079081

Doubling down on stupidity.

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Players began taking the knee in solidarity with the Black Lives Matter movement after the Premier League's 100-day hiatus because of the coronavirus pandemic in June 2020.


Waaait a second, I thought it wasn't anything to do with BLM Whistle
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PostPosted: 22:20 - 03 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ribenapigeon wrote:
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
I’m trying to think back. In what way was, “It ‘Ain’t Half Hot, Mum” racist?


It wasn't in of itself but there was a character in it who was a blacked up white actor.
I seem to recall the bloke was born in India, had a natural tan and spoke Hindi and Urdu better than the two other Indian actors.
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 04 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
The irony was the character in question was the most "British" of them all as in he appreciated what the Empire was about rather than taking it for granted like the other characters, always exclaiming "I'm not some damn native!"

It's a bit like the [former] nationality project of the US: come over and instead of being Asian you'll be Asian American. It was obviously far to successful at racial cohesion so had to be dismantled much the same as the Empire after WW2. Sun's out, where's my pith helmet?
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 04 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
Easy-X wrote:
The irony was the character in question was the most "British" of them all as in he appreciated what the Empire was about rather than taking it for granted like the other characters, always exclaiming "I'm not some damn native!"

It's a bit like the [former] nationality project of the US: come over and instead of being Asian you'll be Asian American. It was obviously far to successful at racial cohesion so had to be dismantled much the same as the Empire after WW2. Sun's out, where's my pith helmet?


Half the problem with immigration in my view is that the immigrants and their children don't regard themselves a British, but British Indians or British Asians or whatever. News channels encourage it by using the terms Asian communities or Muslim communities as though this makes some sort of difference on how they are to be treated.

There's no integration and very little assimilation but it's all too late to change anything now. We have ethnic neighbourhoods (ghettos) in most cities and in some cases whole towns where English is a second language.

I'm really interested to see the 2021 census results and compare them with the 2011 figures. I suspect they will be quite mind blowing.
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 07 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Congresswoman simultaneously calling for the US police to be defunded, and defending her $70,000 private security bill.

https://order-order.com/2021/08/06/defund-police-congresswoman-defends-70000-private-security-bill/
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 20 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
Welsh language is raysis Laughing
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/08/19/arts-council-wales-brands-systemically-racist-language-requirements
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PostPosted: 20:38 - 20 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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telegraph.co.uk

Their racist paywall can be fixed by clicking the little padlock icon at the left of the address bar in Crome and then blocking JavaScript.

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PostPosted: 22:53 - 21 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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doggone wrote:
telegraph.co.uk

Their racist paywall can be fixed by clicking the little padlock icon at the left of the address bar in Crome and then blocking JavaScript.

https://i.imgur.com/zcKr1Ul.png

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PostPosted: 10:01 - 22 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
Not specifically BLM but given its links to Critical Race Theory and - well - outright stupidity, it's probably best in here:

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An academic is suing Leeds Beckett University after she was dropped from her advisory role over tweets calling a mixed-race man a “house negro”, alleging the decision was discriminatory because of her belief in critical race theory and Black radicalism.

The university ended its association with the academic adviser Aysha Khanom after accusing her of “racist language” in relation to tweets using the terms “house negro” and “coconut” – the former in a question.

In what is believed to be the first case of its kind, Khanom is arguing that critical race theory and Black radicalism are protected beliefs under the Equality Act. Critical race theory says race is a social construct used to oppress people of colour and which begets systemic racism.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/16/uk-academic-sues-university-losing-role-critical-race-theory-row-leeds-beckett

CRT is a protected belief under the Equality Act Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 22 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
The old "it's okay when we do it" defence Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 27 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
https://www.indy100.com/news/laurence-fox-benjamin-mendy-tweet-b1909687

Lauro Fox has been at it again Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 27 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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https://www.indy100.com/news/laurence-fox-benjamin-mendy-tweet-b1909687

Lauro Fox has been at it again Laughing


Nice! I like "he upset Twitter..." No, he upset Twitter's blue check marks, the World's self-appointed moral arbiters.
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Worse than that, he upset Pierced Organ.

(That arrogant kunt should take a knee too. On the back of his phuking neck.)
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 31 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
I see ITV is dragging up another documentary about Stephen Lawrence. Rolling Eyes

Yes it was bad, but it happened 20 or so years ago and many many more black youths have died in the meantime at the hands of people with knives.

If this is the only racial motivated killing of a black youth they can come up with, perhaps they should consider whether Britain is quite as racist as they (whoever they are) want us to think.

But hey, I must be getting to the overload stage because it's just becoming white noise. Oh, hold on, can I call it that anymore?
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 31 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I see ITV is dragging up another documentary about Stephen Lawrence


He does seem to get more than his fair share of coverage. It is odd how the media pick certain causes - think of him, Maddie McCann, Suzy Lamplugh to name three chosen for no explicable reason in preference to the thousands who have been killed or disappeared over the years. I used to think the media went for totty because the death of someone easy on the eye means more than the death of a tug, but perhaps not any more...
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PostPosted: 16:48 - 31 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
Diggs wrote:
the death of a tug


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