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And in other news the Rittenhouse trial is over. Apparently shooting at BLM protestors is totally acceptable! (The view of the Left) Or alternatively "what are the chances? Everyone he shot was a convicted felon, one was a child molester ffs!" (The view of the Right)

Look forward to calls for a wholesale dismantling of the US justice system in the future.


Looks to me like the perfect lens to show just how screwed up 'muricans are. Stupid boy with an obsession with uniformed services, especially ones that come with a badge and gun V chaotic aggressive demo tourists. I have little sympathy for him.


Shooting kiddie fiddlers has to be a bonus in anyone's book but the simple "he shouldn't have been there [with a gun]" is also balanced by "recently released felons shouldn't have been pushing a burning dumpster towards a gas station" Rolling Eyes

But to be clear: the kid hasn't got a gun obsession, the nation has a gun obsession Shocked
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You could argue that chasing down someone carrying a semi automatic rifle with violent intent is tantamount to suicide.

Took a burning wheelie-bin and a bad attitude to a gunfight.

To me, the debate isn't whether he should have shot the guy, he's in a country where it's legal to carry a rifle about in the street and watching the footage, under those circumstance, I'd have shot him too.

If you allow people to carry firearms in public, it's implicit that at some point, they might be used. If you don't want them to be used, don't allow people to carry them.
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If you don't want them to be used, don't allow people to carry them.


Yup, this is how I see it.

The jury called self-defence so that's fine, I generally trust the legal process of the western world (generally), though most lefties are arguing hard that it was a great injustice etc etc.

The only debate I think the US needs is over the fact that a minor can legally walk outside and play wannabe vigilante with a real gun almost as big as he is.
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The only debate I think the US needs is over the fact that a minor can legally walk outside and play wannabe vigilante with a real gun almost as big as he is.


Although odd as it may seem, you can legally posess a rifle in the UK at 14, providing you have been granted a firearms certificate. You are however, never allowed to take one out in a public place.
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I saw something the other day that suggests more and more states are actually going in the other direction and moving closer to the letter of the 2nd amendment - the right to own and bear arms. I think this current administration has actually caused more Americans to think of why that amendment was incorporated. This is turning in to a massive setback in any drive to reduce the number of firearms.
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 21 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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And in other news the Rittenhouse trial is over. Apparently shooting at BLM protestors is totally acceptable! (The view of the Left) Or alternatively "what are the chances? Everyone he shot was a convicted felon, one was a child molester ffs!" (The view of the Right)

Look forward to calls for a wholesale dismantling of the US justice system in the future.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE3yM7TlIWk

Leo Kearse on Ben & Jerry's virtue signalling Laughing
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I saw something the other day that suggests more and more states are actually going in the other direction and moving closer to the letter of the 2nd amendment - the right to own and bear arms. I think this current administration has actually caused more Americans to think of why that amendment was incorporated. This is turning in to a massive setback in any drive to reduce the number of firearms.


Yeah, fast forward ten years and everyone attending a demo will be armed. Of course nobody will shoot each other because guns actually promote peace.
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Yeah, fast forward ten years and everyone attending a demo will be armed. Of course nobody will shoot each other because guns actually promote peace.


Why fast forward? Why not go back a couple of years to when the most powerful man in the world was a White Supremacist backing madman that hated brown people?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/20/virginia-gun-rally-activists-richmond

Estimated 22,000 people, 70% of them bearing visible arms, and guess what..... One person arrested for not wearing a mask.

Love the way The Guardian spins stuff:

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Virginia’s politicians had braced for potential violence at the state house, with some raising fears that the gun rights rally could turn violent, like the deadly 2017 white supremacist rally in Charlottesville.


That's it, liken it to a White Supremacy rally Laughing

And then go a step further and contradict the hell out of yourselves:

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Instead, Monday’s rally was crowded but calm, with members of militia groups and violent far-right groups such as the Proud Boys strolling the streets


Brilliant fun as always.
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Yes but they weren’t going up against anybody but the legislature. It’s almost inevitable there will come a time when two large, angry groups of US protestors clash and it spirals into a mass gunfight.
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I saw something the other day that suggests more and more states are actually going in the other direction and moving closer to the letter of the 2nd amendment - the right to own and bear arms. I think this current administration has actually caused more Americans to think of why that amendment was incorporated. This is turning in to a massive setback in any drive to reduce the number of firearms.


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I saw something the other day that suggests more and more states are actually going in the other direction and moving closer to the letter of the 2nd amendment - the right to own and bear arms. I think this current administration has actually caused more Americans to think of why that amendment was incorporated. This is turning in to a massive setback in any drive to reduce the number of firearms.


https://almostdorothy.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/bear-arms.jpg


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Yeah, fast forward ten years and everyone attending a demo will be armed. Of course nobody will shoot each other because guns actually promote peace.


You far right lot disgust me.
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PostPosted: 00:57 - 22 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Why fast forward? Why not go back a couple of years to when the most powerful man in the world was a White Supremacist backing madman that hated brown people?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/20/virginia-gun-rally-activists-richmond

Estimated 22,000 people, 70% of them bearing visible arms, and guess what..... One person arrested for not wearing a mask.

Love the way The Guardian spins stuff:

Quote:
Virginia’s politicians had braced for potential violence at the state house, with some raising fears that the gun rights rally could turn violent, like the deadly 2017 white supremacist rally in Charlottesville.


That's it, liken it to a White Supremacy rally Laughing

And then go a step further and contradict the hell out of yourselves:

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Instead, Monday’s rally was crowded but calm, with members of militia groups and violent far-right groups such as the Proud Boys strolling the streets


Brilliant fun as always.


I think you missed the intention in my post. I was imagining demos where there were conflicting groups not just one side that like guns.
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Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
Yes but they weren’t going up against anybody but the legislature. It’s almost inevitable there will come a time when two large, angry groups of US protestors clash and it spirals into a mass gunfight.


It's what we're all waiting for, lets face it Laughing i just hope when it happens we have a government ready to capitalise on it. Im not sure im very keen on our great nation being flooded with 'murican fugees though Shocked
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I was imagining demos where there were conflicting groups not just one side that like guns.


I predict future US demonstrations will be attended by 3 sides carrying guns - both sets of demonstrators and the 5-0.
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Diggs wrote:
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I was imagining demos where there were conflicting groups not just one side that like guns.


I predict future US demonstrations will be attended by 3 sides carrying guns - both sets of demonstrators and the 5-0.


They are already an orgy of pepper spray and telescopic batons.

https://ktvz.b-cdn.net/2020/09/Portland-protest-baton-stun-gun-860x623.jpg

This guy even went to the effort of getting a tanto bladed knife Laughing

https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/WireAP_54ad22651ea04790b85e6b0f0d8d4472_16x9_992.jpg

https://www.abc.net.au/news/image/9304282-3x2-700x467.jpg

Concealed pistols really are much better at a protest though. Long guns just make you a target Laughing
Also shotguns are much better for real world situations. One shot kill, much easier to defend in court. Rifle range is better but good luck explaining how you needed to self-defence against someone 200 meters away Laughing Your honor, I was looking through my 8x optics and I felt in danger he seemed so close Laughing

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The solution is obvious: gun carry must be mandatory to attend protests in the US, let God sort them out Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 15:24 - 22 Nov 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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The solution is obvious: gun carry must be mandatory to attend protests in the US, let God sort them out Twisted Evil


You do have a valid point. Given our Colonial cousin's obsession with the Lord, you'd think he 'd be the bloke to decide who is right and who is wrong in these matters...
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Rifle range is better but good luck explaining how you needed to self-defence against someone 200 meters away Laughing Your honor, I was looking through my 8x optics and I felt in danger he seemed so close Laughing


Well, it would appear a semi-automatic assault rifle at about 2 yards is also super effective if Kyles little conretemps is anything to go by.
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stinkwheel wrote:
Im-a-Ridah wrote:
Rifle range is better but good luck explaining how you needed to self-defence against someone 200 meters away Laughing Your honor, I was looking through my 8x optics and I felt in danger he seemed so close Laughing


Well, it would appear a semi-automatic assault rifle at about 2 yards is also super effective if Kyles little conretemps is anything to go by.


Most AR15`s chambered in 5.56/.223 are use with one of two most common rounds that cheap and widely available in bulk on the civilian market.

M193 55 grain 5.56mm being a high velocity small calibre round is know to break up and fragment in the body at sub 100 yard ranges, which produces some nasty wounds.

M855 62 grain 5.56mm has a improved perpetrator for penetrating steel (green tip) and does not fragment and can pass straight though a body. Was originally developed for the M249.

There is of course soft point and various hollow point hunting and self defence rounds but they are pricey compared to bulk M193 which the majority of AR15 owners shoot.
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The chilling thing that only gets occasionally mentioned is what great job he did of making all the shots count. No firing off rounds in a panic and catching some innocent bystander Shocked If a ginger paedo was trying to touch me up I'd have wasted a clip and have none left for all the rest of the felons Sad
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The chilling thing that only gets occasionally mentioned is what great job he did of making all the shots count. No firing off rounds in a panic and catching some innocent bystander Shocked If a ginger paedo was trying to touch me up I'd have wasted a clip and have none left for all the rest of the felons Sad


It was obvious he'd been training.
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I bet he makes a mint doing ads for gun shops.
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I bet he makes a mint doing ads for gun shops.


He'll never work again... on the one hand no "normal" employer would touch him with a barge pole but if he hires some smart lawyers (not the idiots he had in the trial) the pay outs from the MSM could reach into the billions Shocked (Bear in mind that Covington kid that was slandered has racked up hundreds of millions in settlements so far.)

While it'd be satisfying to see paedo-apologists like Mark Ruffalo taken down a peg or two financially I suspect it'll just need Jeff Bezos' wallet to keep the lawyers fed and watered.
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