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Nobby the Bastard
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 21 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kneeling to highlight racism within a sport which historically had lots of racist elements (and currently threatens to abandon matches if racist behaviour is encountered in 5he stadia) hardly equates to nazism.
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PostPosted: 13:08 - 21 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, yes. We must keep the dying embers of racism alive otherwise we'd have nothing to complain about.
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 21 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not quite sure what you are actually complaining about. It's almost like you're upset just for the sake of being upset.

The fabled 'reverse virtue signalling'?
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 21 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

What upsets me is political hectoring from arguably the most entitled people on Earth. Is the message "England scored three goals against Iran despite relentless and crushing racism in football" ?
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 21 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, how does the fact they are well off and privileged (which gives them a platform us ordinary people don't have) and are making political points make them traitorous and equivelent to nazis?

Like I said, snowflake meltdown. Maybe with undertones of racism.
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 21 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
The Black lives matter organisation (who don't own and never really did own it)

That is completely disingenuous and you know it. Taking a knee is synonymous with BLM.

https://e0.365dm.com/20/06/768x432/skysports-nicolas-pepe-matteo-guendouzi_5011817.jpg?20200612150114

As I said before BLM were cast aside when the MSM realised what charlatans they were, yet they decided to continue the BLM narrative, and now people like you are trying to retcon very recent history to remove links to an organisation exposed as absolute grifters.

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Kneeling to highlight racism within a sport which historically had lots of racist elements

...kick it out has been around since the 90's. With BLM certain elements saw an opportunity to use sport as another vehicle to try and guilt us with.
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 21 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

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...kick it out has been around since the 90's. With BLM certain elements saw an opportunity to use sport as another vehicle to try and guilt us with.

Kick it out doesn't seem to have reached serbia yet.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2218656/Serbia-v-England-Under-21s-Mass-brawl-racist-abuse-ruins-night.html

(Specifically chose a news source that you won't shout down as being woke.)
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PostPosted: 15:21 - 21 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

How high in the secular priesthood are you Nobby? Are you an Archbishop yet? A saint? Perhaps try for martyr.
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 21 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
M.C wrote:

...kick it out has been around since the 90's. With BLM certain elements saw an opportunity to use sport as another vehicle to try and guilt us with.

Kick it out doesn't seem to have reached serbia yet.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2218656/Serbia-v-England-Under-21s-Mass-brawl-racist-abuse-ruins-night.html

(Specifically chose a news source that you won't shout down as being woke.)

A news source that I won't even click on as I don't want to give them advertising revenue... anyway what does racism a decade ago in Serbia have to do with George Floyd and BLM?

Some more totes nothing to do with BLM for you...
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/23/21/40851670-0-image-a-14_1616533522990.jpg
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 21 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also a sport with racist fans in

https://nltimes.nl/2022/07/11/dutch-fans-accused-sexual-harassment-racism-homophobia-austrian-grand-prix
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 21 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby, can you answer my question? How high in your moral elite are you, and how have you earned that position?
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 21 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've achieved godhood.

Anyway, more racism received by england squad players, a bit more recent for those that racism disappeared in 2018.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/british-accounts-sent-bulk-racist-abuse-during-euro-2020-final-n1276432
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 21 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
So, how does the fact they are well off and privileged (which gives them a platform us ordinary people don't have) and are making political points make them traitorous and equivelent to nazis?


Here's a hot take: how about football players stick to playing football and leave the thinking to the adults Wink

<addendum> I don't think much of the Iranian team "boycotting" their national anthem either. Seems like the identical "we'll take the money but we're really not happy about it."
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 21 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby, why do you think anyone should listen to you?
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 21 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't and have no expection that people will.
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PostPosted: 15:41 - 21 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:

That article is full of examples of racist abuse Rolling Eyes

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
I've achieved godhood.

Anyway, more racism received by england squad players, a bit more recent for those that racism disappeared in 2018.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/british-accounts-sent-bulk-racist-abuse-during-euro-2020-final-n1276432

Oh yes the Euros where they specifically made it about race, then when the Bames bottled it in the final shootout saw their narrative fall apart spectacularly on the world stage Laughing

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article24486728.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/2_Immigration.jpg

^answer to that question btw...

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PostPosted: 15:41 - 21 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:

Here's a hot take: how about football players stick to playing football and leave the thinking to the adults Wink


how about uses of a minor bike forum stick to talking about bikes and leave the thinking to the adults
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PostPosted: 16:08 - 21 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please stop preaching your religion Nobby. You don't like it when others do it at you, and it makes you a hypocrite.
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PostPosted: 16:12 - 21 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you are trying to shut me down simply because I called out someone who screamed 'Reeeeee! Traitors! Nazis!'?

My 'religeon' as you call it is eminantly more based in reason that that outburst.

It seems you just don't like any view that doesn't match your own and yours is automatically superior. Well, it's not.
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 21 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's been enough crying from the other direction but the boot's on the other foot now Wink Let's see how long before the "a great win for diversity!" line is trotted out.
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 21 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:


It seems you just don't like any view that doesn't match your own and yours is automatically superior. Well, it's not.


So when I call you a hypocrite, you decide to prove me right. Ok...
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 21 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is it hypocritical to say you are not always right? How humble you are for having such intellect!
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 21 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

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<addendum> I don't think much of the Iranian team "boycotting" their national anthem either. Seems like the identical "we'll take the money but we're really not happy about it."


Hang on, do you realise what you've just done?

I thought you were one of the regular complainants about fighting age muslims reaching these shores.

You do realise that Iran is one of the biggest exporters of islamic extremism and you've just sided with their leadership and not the ongoing protests about the incredibly restrictive misathropic society they promote?
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 21 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
You do realise that Iran is one of the biggest exporters of islamic extremism and you've just sided with their leadership and not the ongoing protests about the incredibly restrictive misathropic society they promote?


Fantastically well misread. Well done.
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 21 Nov 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once again, have a platform that the norms don't have. Don't you get how the famous can be role models?

or do you just want them to be dumb and not be role models for your kids?

If so, don't bitch when one gets done for a minor infraction of the law.

I suppose that Seb Coe should never have been an MP, only being a sportman and all that. Lets not go there with Imran Khan shall we?

You don't mind when rich Tories like the Rees-Mog thing get all political but woe betide a sportsperson or a musician having political opinions.

For info, they play for pride and not money, they get about £2k per game playing for England. I bet that doesn't cover their expenses.

https://www.thenationalnews.com/sport/football/2021/07/10/do-england-players-get-paid-for-international-matches/
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