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Hey guys & girls,
I have been thinking for a while to get a 125cc scooter/moped and abit undecided on what to go for.
I have been looking at getting a Sinnis Harrier 125cc but haven't seen too many reviews on it and i don't know if that's a bad thing or?
- Could anyone recommend a reliable/reasonable priced scooter for a first time rider?
Going to be using the scooter for commuting 30 minutes or so to work, riding to my girlfriends house and rides when im bored. |
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If you've got no interest in getting licensed up, and just want cheap transport then a scooter is fine. It'll make better use of its limited power than a 125 which will always be in the wrong gear.
Sinnis just rebadge Qingqi (and other) brand of cheap Chinese bikes and scooters. Some consider them disposable.
Even by scootay standards, the Harrier is anaemic with just a claimed 5.5kW. Fortunately, with a 5.5 litre tank you won't have to ride it for long between fill ups.
On the road, you're looking at over £1100. You turn the key, and it's worth £500, same as any other used off-brand scooter.
£1100 buys you a moderately used Honda PCX or Vision 110 (which still manages to make more claimed power than the Sinnis). It'll hold that value far longer.
Factor in the likely higher insurance on the Sinnis and that you'll get mugged on servicing costs if you decide to try and maintain the warranty, and your cheap scooter could quickly end up costing you more than a Honda. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Gilera / Piaggio = See you in the Workshop section.  ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Scooters are for those who like feeling the wind in their mangina.
Get a cheap, used cg125.
You can ride it with just a CBT for 2 years.
Then you can decide if you want to get a full licence, or just re-sit the CBT again and ride for 2 more years.
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My Mangina enjoy's the breeze
That cg125 looks like a Boris bike |
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| JimmyWray89 wrote: | Oh can you get a geared bike with a CBT license? |
Yes. Irrespective of what you do your CBT on, the resulting DL196 certificate will validates your provisionaL entitlement to ride anything up to 125cc and 11kW (and 0.1kW/kg), geared or otherwise, as long, as it's displaying L plates front and rear and you don't take a pillion or use motorways.
I'd encourage you to give a geared bike a try during or after your CBT. They're more involving and fun, although not necessarily more practical.
If you enjoy it, then you could consider skipping the 125 altogether and go straight on to training and direct access tests for your full A license. There's no need to wobble around essentially untrained on a 125 unless you particularly want to. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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What CaNsA meant to say in the new loving, caring, sharing BCF was...
| JimmyWray89 wrote: | Thanks for the info! i do like the CBR125 but notice you need a A1 license |
Our licensing scheme is confusing.
An "A1" bike is up to 125cc, 11kW and 0.1kW/kg. Sound familiar? It's exactly the same list as what you can ride on your provisionaL entitlement after doing a CBT.
Why would you get an A1 license, I hear you ask? Generally, you wouldn't. You need a proper license if you want to remove the L plates, use a motorway, or take a pillion.
In your case, I'd forget about A1, and definitely about A2.
Really all you need to know is:
CBT ride any "A1" bike up to 125cc on L plates (and not on a motorway, or with a pillion).
Pass motorcycle theory + module 1 and module 2 practical tests on a 595cc+ 40kW+ "A" bike get a full "A" license and ride anything you want, anywhere you want, with pillion candy gushing on the back. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 9 years, 281 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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