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Welcome Matt.
Blimey that's quite an upgrade from a 125 ____________________ CBF 125 -> CB400SF -> GSX600F -> ZX6R (G1) -> GSXR1000 K4 -> ZX6R (B1H Stunt bike) -> VFR800 -> R1 5PW -> Sprint 1050 -> Fireblade 929 -> ZX10R C2H |
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2013 R1 at 23, your insurance must be hideous. (mine is about £600 for a 2009 bike). ____________________ My Flickr |
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Rogerborg nimbA
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Wafer_Thin_Ham wrote: | 2013 R1 at 23 |
24 at least.
Sticking it out on a "sports" 125 for 3 years when you obviously want something bigger, now that's impressive. Could have been on a FZS600 GSX650FA on A2.
I was just thinking about this, commuting home on my mighty 250 racebike. They used to be seen as training bikes on the route to the full powah equivalent that you really wanted.
However, what are you learning on a small capacity sportsbike? To pin the throttle absolutely everywhere while tap dancing up and down the gearbox, and an inculcated sense that getting out of trouble with a quick squirt of roll-on power isn't an option.
InB4 Tef, small bikes teach you specific lessons that are at best non-transferable, and at worst harmful.
Welcome to BCF. Do you like cats? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Remember when i passed my test in 1989.Previous year or two had my heart set on an RG500,being a massive two stroke fan.
Not long after i saw a mint 1986 model for sale in Motorcycle City in Reading for £3500.Put a deposit down and arranged a pick up date.Up until then the quickest bike i had rode was a Suzuki RM125 motocross bike.
So i picked it up and pulled out on to the road.Gave it a fistful of throttle and it took off,front wheel in the air when it hit the powerband.
Can picture the salesman shaking his head and thinking 'There goes another potato'.
Still in one piece so going from a 125 to something with a decent bit of poke don't need to end in tears.
WTTB Matt. ____________________ Current Bike - 2000 ZX-7R |
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Rogerborg wrote: | ZX-7R wrote: | [I went from 125 to real ultimate power and lived] |
Self selecting sample is self selecting. |
Then there are quite a lot of lads crippled or dead that did the exact same thing.
Well, I did quite the opposite, went from the big boys bikes to a soviet era MZ 151 ETZ. It is no secret that I had only 2 motorcycle crashes in my life and both happened on that bloody MZ. Riding a ZX7R, at three digit speeds all the time, and couldn't handle a motorcycle made on the wrong side of the iron curtain, twice.
I mean, the MZ brochure said, 0-62mph: YES. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
'95 Mercedes-Benz w202 C200 CGI, '98 Mercedes-Benz w210 E200 Kompressor |
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Coming from a 125 bike to a bigger bike, there are a number of habits you bring with you. The ones that stick with you longest are a tendency to assume you're slower than you are (so if a bike comes up behind you, you move to the side to let them overtake, but they don't overtake), and course corrections around bends.
The latter one stops you taking the best possible line around the bend, because you're skirting around bumps and dry features unnecessarily. On a 125 it would be necessary, as a dry manhole cover, say, can make a CG back tyre slide out scarily around a bend at 50mph. But on bigger bikes with bigger tyres, it's just a small bump and makes no difference. You can just ignore it. You even have some slowing and stopping power at that speed, on the same bend on a bigger bike.
So, I would guess that if you did things the other way around (big bike, then down to a 125), you wouldn't be making those line corrections around bends, when perhaps you should. ____________________ Safety in numbers |
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matt1991dunn wrote: | my insurance worked out at £1,650 with GoSkippy, this is without pillion cover. The price would shoot up to around £4k with pillion cover which is silly. |
Maybe.
It's not designed as a touring bike or a pop-to-the-shops commuter, so what are you likely to be doing on it while taking a pillion?
If they're applying logic (and granted I wouldn't necessarily assume it), they're thinking: inexperienced rider on an unfamiliar bike sticking his mate on the back for a Sunday blast up the back roads (ooo-er).
One quick detour into the landscape later and you're looking at the cost of whole-life care for a quadrospazzed 3rd party. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 214 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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