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skatefreak
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PostPosted: 10:54 - 26 Sep 2016    Post subject: That time of year? Reply with quote

Afternoon all.
So that time of year is approaching.

Got on the bike this morning and bleeding heck it's getting chilly now (10 degrees this morning).

I'm either going to have to invest in some proper clothing or take a break when it gets much colder as the shorts and t-shirt approach just don't seem quiet adequate Laughing.

What are we looking at here?
How do you year round cyclists deal with dropping temperatures?

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PostPosted: 11:02 - 26 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not an all year round one but Mrs stinkwheel swears by merino base layers and (oddly) shoe covers.

You can also get bar muffs for bicycles. Except they aren't called bar muffs, they are called pogies.
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 26 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Layers are the answer. Plus good waterproofs correctly worn to stop water running into your shoes (they also help to keep you warm as they are windproof).

I have shoes a size bigger than normal, so I can wear merino socks (cramming them into normal sized shoes reduces blood flow so ends up colder). Waterproof shoe covers (nylon or neoprene) make a big difference.

Sealskin socks and gloves - though in sub zero I tend to go for waterproof skiing gloves.

I also use a wind/waterproof balaclava in seriously cold conditions, with a peaked cycling cap to keep the rain/snow out of my eyes.
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 26 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a lot of layers - a compression layer, then an insulating layer or two (depending on the temperature), a wind-stopping layer and then something to stop the water if it's wet.

I have recently taken delivery of an under-helmet fleecy skullcap type of thing and some over-shoes. Last winter I wore some Lidl waterproof (motor)bike gloves which worked very well and I will probably continue like this on the MTB, but I also now have some 'lobster claw' gloves for road riding.

I also have mudguards on the MTB and have a set ready to fit to the roadie.

Also clear glasses (Bollé safety glasses make excellent riding glasses for little money).
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 26 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clickly.

If that's of any use, alternatives available. Don't cycle so cannot help further but wanted to pass on link.
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 26 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't you warm up after pedalling for while? Confused For me the only issue I have is cold fingers/hands, same problem I have on the motorbike.
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 26 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

NJD wrote:


If that's of any use, alternatives available. Don't cycle so cannot help further but wanted to pass on link.


Merino mid layer looks just the thing for under leathers!

Also very cheap source of GT85.
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 26 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neoprene overshoes are great for offroading when the weather is crap.

Though they might be a bit overkill for road cycling. Laughing

What type of riding do you do and what sort of distances?

These tyres are awesome when the roads are icey: http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?s=Schwalbe+Marathon+Winter
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 26 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for the responses people!
10.5 miles each way doing a combination of country lanes and footpaths cross fields or 12.5 road only (for the road bike) so it is very open and windy out there...
I have base layers from winters marshalling a paintball site so will throw those on and see how I get on.
god knows how I didn't think of trying that this morning Rolling Eyes.
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 26 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Merino is good. I prefer a few thin layers rather than one heavy one so you can take one off once you're warmed up after riding a while. Also, "Roubaix" fleece lined fabrics for things like bib tights, jerseys or knee / arm warmers are also good. Liner gloves under windproof outer shell gloves (bought a size up from normal to fit liners under and allow warm air to accumulate). Overshoes to keep out rain and add a layer of warmth. Not packing really thick socks into normal sized shoes as that squashes feet and cuts off blood flow and also doesn't allow for a bit of warmair space in your shoes. If you're using cycling shoes then they often have mesh or vents in them designed for cooling you down in summer. Stick gaffer tape across the vents inside to stop cold air flowing in.
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 29 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

NJD wrote:
Clickly.

If that's of any use, alternatives available. Don't cycle so cannot help further but wanted to pass on link.


Worth a bump.

Just scored a merino base and mid layer tops.

Top quality. Also long enough to tuck into my trousers and with sleeves that reach the ends of my arms. Geman XL fit is longer as well as wider.
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 29 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
NJD wrote:
Clickly.

If that's of any use, alternatives available. Don't cycle so cannot help further but wanted to pass on link.


Worth a bump.

Just scored a merino base and mid layer tops.

Top quality. Also long enough to tuck into my trousers and with sleeves that reach the ends of my arms. Geman XL fit is longer as well as wider.


I have some of the waterproof socks inbound via online order - I'm hoping they will do most of the job of Sealskinz for much less of the money.
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

around this way its the time of the year when everyone riding has has bought cheap chinese cree lights (100,000,000 watts) who direct them straight at your eye balls

Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Re: That time of year? Reply with quote

skatefreak wrote:


How do you year round cyclists deal with dropping temperatures?




Walk... or take the Van... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

mudcow007 wrote:
around this way its the time of the year when everyone riding has has bought cheap chinese cree lights (100,000,000 watts) who direct them straight at your eye balls

Crying or Very sad


Yep, I hate that. One bloke at our cycling club insists that this is safe as it means motorists see him. He won't accept that having someone approaching him in 2 tonnes of metal who is now blind isn't a great idea.
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just starting to cycle to work now, I changed job recently and no longer require the car to commute with, so bicycle will be coming out, there's £50 saved a week immediately. Only a year and I can look at getting my first expensive motorbike, anything over 1500 is an expensive bike. Laughing

It's only about five miles but I am a fair weather cyclist, definitely, I need to remind myself it will all be worth it. I assume the motorcycle gear will be alright, the base layers and then the thermal top? What do you lot do for top layers, I was just going to wang a fleece on and hope for the best, wear some long johns under the work trousers and I always wear thick socks anyway, it's the future!

Anything else that might be handy? I used to cycle to school on the bike and I used to hate it at this time because like a stupid teenager admitting to feeling temperatures was an admittance of homosexuality so you must never wear a jacket over the uniform, nor gloves, nor hat. Embarassed
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PostPosted: 19:03 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

For five miles, pretty much anything will work - though you probably want something windproof/showerproof rather than a fleece, which will lose all it's insulating properties once you are moving and getting air moving through it. Once you are riding you'll keep warm, unless it is wet and windy.

During the worst winter weather (sub zero) on top I wear a base layer, cycling jersey and a goretex top. On my legs a base layer, long cycling trousers and goretex overtrousers. I wear the goretex even in dry conditions; it's for windproofing as much as waterproofing.

It's better to start out feeling a little chilly; you'll warm up as you go.
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

through winter i normally just wear long cycling pants, wooley booley socks, overshoes, a breathable t shirt an softshell jacket

if its really really cold - as in full on ice i wear paclite rain jacket but tend to sweat like a monster in that which makes you colder

within a few miles im "at temperature" so good to go

My commute is about 5 - 6 miles
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PostPosted: 09:52 - 12 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rode in a couple of days ago in shorts with my winter hiking 'leggings', they did a great job however I found the cold got on my chest somewhat O_o.

2 days later, woke up to 4 degrees and noped right back in and took the car.

What can be done about this? Is it something you can acclimatise to or maybe breath through a scarf to help warm the incoming air?

Cheers for the input Smile
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 12 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

skatefreak wrote:

What can be done about this?

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PostPosted: 09:14 - 13 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only had problems with cold head/ears and hands. Balaclava under your helmet and one of those sweatbands that joggers use that cover your ears. Gloves as thick as you can without lacking control.

The rest of me warmed up fine due to my heart banging away at 180bpm for most of the journey, because hills.
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 21 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good winter base layer underneath full length bibshorts and a merino jersey along with neoprene gloves and overshoes works a treat as long as it's not cold enough to start forming ice on the road.

The only risk with neoprene stuff is you will get very cold very quickly if you have to stop for a puncture or such. Having tough well inflated tyres and being adept at quickly changing a tube helps immensely Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 06:04 - 22 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

skatefreak wrote:


What can be done about this? Is it something you can acclimatise to or maybe breath through a scarf to help warm the incoming air?


Riding below 10'C makes my chest fill with muck too; what you suggest (although I actually use a neck warmer fleecey tube thing pulled over mouth and nose) works OK for me, however it does make breathing harder work (!) - my rigorous scientific tests at the cycle track say that to keep heart rate the same with a scarf over my mouth, I need to drop 2mph; or to keep the same speed means about 20bpm higher heart rate.
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 22 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

defblade wrote:
I need to drop 2mph; or to keep the same speed means about 20bpm higher heart rate.

Are you this guy?
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When it gets really cold (say 2 degrees) it gets harder to breath as you're obviously breathing in really cold air. Still too much clothing's a bad idea, you'll sweat up and start struggling in no time.
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