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Imagine if five years actually meant five years!
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How long is a piece of string? What are the circumstances?
John murders Bob - after Bob brutally and inexplicably murders John's wife without any reason/excuse, then goes on to avoid any sort of justice due to police investigations being useless, lets say. This is only highlighted during John's trial. Does John deserve the same sentence as Bob now? Even if its a minimum sentence?
And does that mean much either way if "worse" cases often get the same minimum sentences anyway because the justice systems bulging at the seams?  |
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I think the law system, British or Czech, does not matter, is set alright.
As you might know, I have got the master's degree at law. So, I do realise not every crime is the same. Demanding life sentence or even death penalty for murder is a bit short sighted. In many cases of murder there's no prior consideration and/or deliberation (planning). There's also a very thin line between murder and manslaughter. A planned murder sure should have worse punishment, don't you think?
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Here's a can of worms for you to inspect.
The prison system is overloaded, mostly with low level criminals offending to feed a drug habit or drifting into petty larceny from poverty (perceived or not).
So. The majority of such cases before the bench get suspended or minimal sentencing. With little or no support, the cycle repeats.
This leads to the inevitable diminution of respect for the law both by perp and victim.
My solution is this. Put them to work, but proper work. It won't be pleasant, street sweeping, land reclamation, parks and landscaping, heavy, dirty, but a real contribution to the social fabric. Its win win.
We get clean cities, they get to payback and, just maybe, some form of satisfaction that might just feed back into their future behavior.
Councils are cash strapped in just these areas, so I don't envisage much protest from our public servants.
Now, how to control such an unruly bunch out in society.
Micro chip them on entry into the system. Location to be monitored at all times. There is nothing, technically to stop having a device that renders the subject immobile if they miss-behave.
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We should have some sort of system where someone judges the situation to determine how long is necessary.  |
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Put them all on a nice island somewhere. That one full of Anthrax sounds a good choice. Tell them it's up to them how they survive.  ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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Nobody mentioned castration as part of any punishment. Now, I'm not usually an advocate of social engineering but as a society we would all benefit from stopping the blood-line of persistent offending scroat families... Doing the same to the likes of Philip Green wouldn't cause me a problem either.. ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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My solution is this. Put them to work, but proper work. It won't be pleasant, street sweeping, land reclamation, parks and landscaping, heavy, dirty, but a real contribution to the social fabric. Its win win.
We get clean cities, they get to payback and, just maybe, some form of satisfaction that might just feed back into their future behavior. |
Which will undercut the wages for people working in those industries. Therefore the work has to be utterly useless like digging and filling holes.
Prison sentences?
The problem with prison sentences is that prisons simply aren't brutal enough.
Siggi here went to a Japanese prison and wrote a negative trip adviser review about his experience.
Nick Leeson went to a Singaporean prison and did not enjoy himself either giving a 1 star review on Trivago. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Still, I've seen the decrepit old fuckers advocating such menial work should be completed in exchange for dole money. ____________________ Mpd72: I can categorically say i’m Brighter than that, no matter how I come across on here.
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Diggs wrote: | Nobody mentioned castration as part of any punishment. Now, I'm not usually an advocate of social engineering but as a society we would all benefit from stopping the blood-line of persistent offending scroat families... Doing the same to the likes of Philip Green wouldn't cause me a problem either.. |
It has been proven many times before, that the DNA nor physical appearance and special abilities have nothing to do with any criminal predispositions. It's the mental state of the person and/or the environment the person grows up, lives.
They only castrate the mentaly ill sex offenders, that can't help themself, for some reason. But that's not really a punishment, it's a deal the perpetrator makes with the judge, that works as some sort of a precaution and condition for the perpetrator to remain free. This is normally combined with medication that causes impotency and/or medication reducing the sex apetite of the perpetrator.
One important thing, the perpetrator has to give an informed consent to all above. The alternative to it is incarceration in a psychiatric hospital. And the actuall castration is very rare. I remember only one case as it was heavily cover by all the local media. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 8 years, 327 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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