Box Junctions = £££££££££

[Motorhate]

I always knew that getting caught in a box junction meant a fine from the local council but I didn't realise what a cash cow it really is. Not too bad if you're on a bike but in a car, you're basically screwed. Even worse when the traffic layout forces you into a box junction.

This is Enfield which is a particularly scummy part of the world in places and the locals don't take kindly to you delaying their journey.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-37474415
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[MCN]

It's a cunt who ignores Box Junction rules.
It's like some prick pushin' in at a crowded bar. 'Glassed' is wot they want.

"You MUST NOT enter the box until your exit lane is clear."

I mean, how bastirt difficult is it?

Rule 174
Box junctions. These have criss-cross yellow lines painted on the road (see ‘Road markings’). You MUST NOT enter the box until your exit road or lane is clear. However, you may enter the box and wait when you want to turn right, and are only stopped from doing so by oncoming traffic, or by other vehicles waiting to turn right. At signalled roundabouts you MUST NOT enter the box unless you can cross over it completely without stopping.

I hope this helps.

It's the Law
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[Itchy]

[MCN]

[M.C]

[Pjay]

I know that box junction well, I pass it regularly, it's right by the Halfway house and has a camera on it. There are always people blasting their horns there at motorists that refuse to enter it.
I'd just ignore them, but if you are a older lady, you're doomed, the feral fuckers are often getting out of their cars to remonstrate with anyone they deem weaker than themselves.

The box there does seriously need looking at, but it's to do with a road that runs parallel to the A10 which should just be a one way, stopping this altogether. The problem is, you try turn left and no fucker lets you out, so you have to enter to box to stand a chance of exiting the road, meaning a ticket. The council are pricks though, instead of dealing with it, they man the camera to make £££ from it each rush hour.

[Derivative]

Yellow boxes in London basically seem like the wrong solution entirely. Ones that are bigger than a car length or two, anyway.

In my experience, drivers seem to be intelligent enough to work it out on their own, people do let each other in even in heavy traffic. I mean, most of the time that it's actually an issue, everyone is travelling at 5mph anyway and winding around each other India style.

The only really bad example I've seen is a few months back when the traffic lights at Gants Hill failed. Gridlock for a few hours because the roundabout is too small to function properly. I walked the bike around on the pavement.

Anyway, this is underclass stuff, we're on bike chat forums here, we create gaps.

[CaNsA]

[Motorhate]

[Commuter_Tim]

What about a box junction where you can sit on the forward half of it and easily not block crossing traffic though?
Not from a legal standpoint of course, a moral one.
I pass 1 on the way to work and back every day, whilst I certainly aim to stay out of them I wouldn't feel bad if I was blocking nobody?

It makes me wonder how accurate their cameras are too?
Are they high fps enough to define between stationary and putting a foot down but not stopping?
I heard the regular Scameras cost tens of thousands, and there is no way they are that accurate surely? (Yes I will call you Shirley)
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[P.]

TBF, he has a point. I don't move for anyone... especially rude people

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