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PostPosted: 19:16 - 29 Sep 2016    Post subject: Rear ended someone Reply with quote
Basically i caught my front right wing on a Toyota hilux which had one of those lift things the electricity companies use. caved my front wing in and the hilux had no damage apart from some of my paint on it. Since there was no damage and only paint left on the car, will they take it up with insurance?
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 29 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Depends, they might put in a personal injury claim just for the £££.
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 29 Sep 2016    Post subject: Re: Rear ended someone Reply with quote
rhys99 wrote:
will they take it up with insurance?

Absolutely not, 110% guaranteed, cast iron.

Strange question.
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 29 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
M.C wrote:
Depends, they might put in a personal injury claim just for the £££.
was under 5mph and guy seemed pretty sound
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 29 Sep 2016    Post subject: Re: Rear ended someone Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
rhys99 wrote:
will they take it up with insurance?

Absolutely not, 110% guaranteed, cast iron.

Strange question.

I ask because there was no damage done, i didnt hit the actually Pickup, i hit whatever thing it had on the back, i did no damage to it and only left some paint on it.
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 29 Sep 2016    Post subject: Re: Rear ended someone Reply with quote
rhys99 wrote:
there was no damage and only pain

will they take it up with insurance?

Thinking
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 29 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
To clear things up, i hit the big chuck of black metal under the bucket.
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 29 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
https://i.imgur.com/wZPC8Dq.jpg

The bit I've highlighted?

The driver might not be too bother but the company he works for might want it checking out to ensure it's all still straight
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 29 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
duhawkz wrote:

The bit I've highlighted?

The driver might not be too bother but the company he works for might want it checking out to ensure it's all still straight

Yeah, thats exactly what the driver said. It did a fair bit to the soft aluminium on my land rover
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 29 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Poor obs.

Quite possibly the poorest obs. Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 29 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ste wrote:
Poor obs.

Quite possibly the poorest obs. Laughing

I agree, however it isn't so simple. Both me and pickup indicating right at a mini roundabout ,however i assumed he was going right but he decided to go all the way around,this couldnt be done in 1 manoeuvre so he stopped to do a few point turn on a mini roundabout , when he stopped i hit him.
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 29 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
rhys99 wrote:
M.C wrote:
Depends, they might put in a personal injury claim just for the £££.
was under 5mph and guy seemed pretty sound

You're familiar with the personal injury industry right? Laughing

If there was genuinely no damage to the other party then you're probably ok. The company I work for don't pursue claims for the fun of it, someone has to be paid to deal with all that shit.

I think there's actually a rule about not going all the way around a mini-roundabout, so if a claim turns up you might have some sort of defence.
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 29 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Now it's poor obs and tailgating.
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PostPosted: 00:46 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
I cannot comment on your lack of understanding of physical reality, geometry etc.

I guess it will probably be alright, give him a few pictures of the queen's face, but not too many, that's probably the approach.

That looks like a well nice place to live though. Very leafy.
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PostPosted: 08:22 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
M.C wrote:

I think there's actually a rule about not going all the way around a mini-roundabout, so if a claim turns up you might have some sort of defence.


Is there????

I think this requires a link for proof Karma
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Highway Code wrote:
rule 188:


Mini roundabouts......... Avoid making U-turns at mini roundabouts, beware of others doing this.


legal, but not advised.
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
If the guy couldn't make it in one then that also brings into play:
Rule 200
Choose an appropriate place to manoeuvre. If you need to turn your vehicle around, wait until you find a safe place. Try not to reverse or turn round in a busy road; find a quiet side road or drive round a block of side streets.

I doubt a mini-roundabout counts as a safe place.
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
M.C wrote:
If the guy couldn't make it in one then that also brings into play:
Rule 200
Choose an appropriate place to manoeuvre. If you need to turn your vehicle around, wait until you find a safe place. Try not to reverse or turn round in a busy road; find a quiet side road or drive round a block of side streets.

I doubt a mini-roundabout counts as a safe place.


true.

dammit, i got out-anoraked Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's safe enough until someone smacks into the back of you. Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:53 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
M.C wrote:
If the guy couldn't make it in one then that also brings into play:
Rule 200
Choose an appropriate place to manoeuvre. If you need to turn your vehicle around, wait until you find a safe place. Try not to reverse or turn round in a busy road; find a quiet side road or drive round a block of side streets.

I doubt a mini-roundabout counts as a safe place.


Given looking at the google map. It was the widest area to make a turn. Thus making it the safest area due to the length of said turning vehicle.
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 30 Sep 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
iooi wrote:
M.C wrote:
If the guy couldn't make it in one then that also brings into play:
Rule 200
Choose an appropriate place to manoeuvre. If you need to turn your vehicle around, wait until you find a safe place. Try not to reverse or turn round in a busy road; find a quiet side road or drive round a block of side streets.

I doubt a mini-roundabout counts as a safe place.


Given looking at the google map. It was the widest area to make a turn. Thus making it the safest area due to the length of said turning vehicle.
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Google shows it on a fish eyed lense, you can't even make it around with a yaris.
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PostPosted: 00:20 - 02 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
rhys99 wrote:
iooi wrote:


Given looking at the google map. It was the widest area to make a turn. Thus making it the safest area due to the length of said turning vehicle.
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Google shows it on a fish eyed lense, you can't even make it around with a yaris.


He said map, not Street view.
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PostPosted: 09:47 - 02 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
duhawkz wrote:
https://i.imgur.com/wZPC8Dq.jpg

The bit I've highlighted?

The driver might not be too bother but the company he works for might want it checking out to ensure it's all still straight


It'll be fine, Defender wing's aren't the strongest of bits of bodywork!
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 02 Oct 2016    Post subject: Re: Rear ended someone Reply with quote
rhys99 wrote:
will they take it up with insurance?


Insurance companies are cunts and they will definitely call him several times asking if he definitely seriously really did not get any injury, and advise him to definitely seriously go to A&E just in case, and if there's any neck pain report it immediately. etc etc.

Why do I think this?

Several years ago I slid into the back of someone on a massive chunk of black ice, also at about 5mph. My car drifted sideways so a side panel hit the bumper of the car in front and crumpled inwards. My car was written off. His bumper mildly cracked.

The bloke and his missus were totally fine, we swapped insurance details and I drove my mortally wounded car home.

A few weeks later I got a letter telling me I was being sued for gross negligence, driving without due care, hazardous driving, etc etc etc, causing grievous harm to this bloke.

A few weeks later I got the exact same letter, this time on behalf of his wife. (Funny how her exact same injury took a few weeks longer to manifest itself...)

In non-legal speak it was basically a whiplash claim and I'm fairly sure his insurance company will have been the ones who gently prodded them to do it.

In they end they got just short of ten grand compensation.

For reference, my car vs theirs:

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19076_267015288495_4259133_n.jpg?oh=a0a6d68e7457c1b9b6288a33fef9814f&oe=58A9C77C

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PostPosted: 18:56 - 02 Oct 2016    Post subject: Re: Rear ended someone Reply with quote
Lord Percy wrote:
rhys99 wrote:
will they take it up with insurance?


Insurance companies are cunts and they will definitely call him several times asking if he definitely seriously really did not get any injury, and advise him to definitely seriously go to A&E just in case, and if there's any neck pain report it immediately. etc etc.

Guess i have to hope for the best then...
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