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Val
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: SMADSY?? Reply with quote

Do we need to start looking for car drones out of control now?

Sorry mate the autopilot did not see you?

https://www.fema-online.eu/website/index.php/2016/10/07/nmcu-asks-elon-musk/

I can't wait for electromagnetic pulse countermeasure Oxford devices that will let us fry any autopilot in the vicinity of 200 meters Smile
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PostPosted: 11:17 - 07 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure they'll build them to specifically target people who are in favour of the EU, too. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 10 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's actually an interesting point (from Val Shocked )

I saw the first episode of the new series of the gadget show, repeated, on Sunday and they also referred to the system as an "Autopilot".

It's simply not the case, it's just slightly more advanced Cruise control.
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 10 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's so many flavours of auto correct for dim drivers and I think it's inevitable that others will die directly because of it, but be largely balanced out by those who were saved in spite of it.

Beware the auto braking radar equipped vehicles that perform an emergency stop because an empty crisp bag wandered in front of the sensors. I'm always aware of the compensation scammers looking for a bit of rear end action, so I don't tend to get that close whether riding or driving, but these back seat e-drivers are new elements of danger.

I really don't think motorbike filtering is going to be something the designers or developers can plan for, good filtering is (almost) by its creative and spontaneous nature an art form, and one that would blow a motorbike sized hole in The Matrix.
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hong Kong Phooey wrote:


I really don't think motorbike filtering is going to be something the designers or developers can plan for

Yes it is. I can think of two approaches and I'm not even a specialist.
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yorkshire Geek wrote:
Hong Kong Phooey wrote:


I really don't think motorbike filtering is going to be something the designers or developers can plan for

Yes it is. I can think of two approaches and I'm not even a specialist.


The best approach if I was developing would be akin to the parting of the Red Sea when a bike was nearby. Can't see that getting signed off.
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PostPosted: 23:31 - 11 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZX-7R wrote:
Guess the texting drivers will think its okay to be on the phone as the car is on 'autopilot'.

I can see that becoming a fun game, cutting up the car and getting the driver to drop their phone/spill coffee all over their lap. It might even replace answering sales calls with the radio on full blast as my favourite boredom killer Very Happy
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PostPosted: 08:40 - 12 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yorkshire Geek wrote:
Hong Kong Phooey wrote:

I really don't think motorbike filtering is going to be something the designers or developers can plan for

Yes it is. I can think of two approaches and I'm not even a specialist.

Secret approaches?

This isn't Twitter, you can use more than 140 characters.
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 12 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Out of curiosity, has anyone drive a car with this 'park assist'? Does it really parallel park for you or is that an advert showing artistic licence?

I'm thinking of this advert in particular...

https://www.tvadvertsuk.com/automobile-transport/vauxhall-tv-advert-the-2016-vauxhall-corsa-with-advanced-parking-assist-can-a-car-make-you-look-amazing-yes-its-a-corsa-corsa-opelcorsa-opel-apa-advancedparkingassist/
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 12 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not driven but I've been in a Volvo XC90 with the parking assist and other automated type stuff, it really does do what they claim it will, it's pretty damn cool!

https://www.volvocars.com/uk/about/our-innovations/intellisafe#
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 12 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Out of curiosity, has anyone drive a car with this 'park assist'? Does it really parallel park for you or is that an advert showing artistic licence?

I'm thinking of this advert in particular...

https://www.tvadvertsuk.com/automobile-transport/vauxhall-tv-advert-the-2016-vauxhall-corsa-with-advanced-parking-assist-can-a-car-make-you-look-amazing-yes-its-a-corsa-corsa-opelcorsa-opel-apa-advancedparkingassist/


I know that on certain cars (the Focus, for one), it does the steering for you but you still have to operate the pedals and put it in the appropriate gear. I'm not sure, but I suspect it has something to do with being in charge of the vehicle and what it could mean legally if the auto assist crashed you into something.
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 12 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Parking is a special case problem with far fewer variables than general driving. Even at that, can it cope with traffic making close overtakes or will it cheerfully swing the nose right into it?

The problem with having a smorgasbord of "assistive" tech on board is that it's going to make a typical driver cede responsibility for all of their actions, and become even lazier and less observant. I'm not even going to phrase that as an opinion, since it's so self evident.

I'd honestly rather have full robocars (and I don't want those) than "assistive" ones.
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