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| Suntan Sid |
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 Suntan Sid World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 00:02 - 06 Oct 2016 Post subject: Daylight, F#%$in', Robbery! |
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Have a look at this thread:-
https://forums.pepipoo.com/lofiversion/index.php/t108971.html
And people wonder why there's no respect for authority anymore!
Typical snidey gobshites hiding behind supposed H&S bollox!
Who's robbing who, these days, FFS?
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plod won't release stolen property to victim unless he stumps up £150! ____________________ "Everybody needs money, that's why they call it money!"  |
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 Posted: 00:17 - 06 Oct 2016 Post subject: Re: Daylight, F#%$in', Robbery! |
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Awesome.
Had a similar but not same horrific experience with my brother in law whose XR125 got pinched. Police wrote to him saying they'd recovered the vehicle and he'd need to pay 150 quid to have it released.
So he turns up with his cash, hands them the letter, and they go off 'out back' for a few minutes before coming back with a box full of disassembled engine
Of course. He remonstrated with them and said he'd not be paying that as they hadn't recovered a vehicle, they'd recovered bits of it, and what would happen the next time a component turned up? That'll be another 150 quid they say and if you don't pay up you'll receive a debt collection letter. Fabulous. |
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Looks like he has sorted it out now..... Had them back FOC.
I love a happy ending  ____________________ Previous Bike: Skyjet SJ27
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| M.C wrote: | | arry wrote: | That'll be another 150 quid they say and if you don't pay up you'll receive a debt collection letter. Fabulous. |
Are you actually under any obligation to collect your property (genuine question)? |
Property? No, never.
Vehicles? No, you don't have to collect it, but...
They don't have to release it to the owner unless he pays up (S101.4, supported by https://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/1997/2073.html )
The charges "in England or Wales [can] be recoverable as a simple contract debt in any court of competent jurisdiction" but only against the person responsible for leaving the vehicle in the place where it was collected. In most of the cases that we discuss, that's the thief, not the owner or keeper.
Not to say that you won't get threatened with "debt" recovery or a court case, but if you want to just walk away from a stolen and crashed vehicle, you should feel free to invite them to sod right off and bill the thief. Catching them would be a good first step. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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 Posted: 20:06 - 06 Oct 2016 Post subject: Re: Daylight, F#%$in', Robbery! |
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| Suntan Sid wrote: | Have a look at this thread:-
https://forums.pepipoo.com/lofiversion/index.php/t108971.html
And people wonder why there's no respect for authority anymore!
Typical snidey gobshites hiding behind supposed H&S bollox!
Who's robbing who, these days, FFS?
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plod won't release stolen property to victim unless he stumps up £150! |
Makes zero sense. Some people must love being in that business, and all of them are utter cunts.
Never should a person be made to pay for the return of their own stolen goods. If you can prove the goods are yours, the impound scummers are basically thieves too.
"We've got your stolen goods and if you don't pay we keep them."
What bollocks. |
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Totally agree. If i had to pay to get my own STOLEN property back, i would play holy fuck!
They either scam people to line their own pockets, or they are jobsworth cunts  ____________________ Previous Bike: Skyjet SJ27
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 Posted: 22:40 - 09 Oct 2016 Post subject: Re: Daylight, F#%$in', Robbery! |
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If the police pick them up themselves, it does seem unfair to charge people.
But the majority of the time as far as I know, for road legal motor-vehicles it's a third party contractor - which seems reasonable - the police should be doing police stuff, not acting as a recovery operator.
If we accept we need a third party operator, we then get to the issue that they need to get paid - if the money came from the police budget, any time they had a bit of a lull, they just need to get a friend to report a car 'stolen'.
Recovery companies that service the police do have to be on call 24/7 I believe, they also have to maintain forensics bays for the police to use.
None of this of course, I'd see as an excuse for the case in the link above. |
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The legislation is primarily aimed at abandoned vehicles, where it's reasonable to bill the driver (or keeper) for collection.
And when the Court of Appeals decided to stitch us up by deciding that collection fees are payable by the owner before release, the case was brought by insurers (thanks, arry) and the attitude from their Lordships seemed to be "you've got deep pockets, quit your bitching." ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 9 years, 177 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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