Triumphs new hipster bike

[TheSmiler]

It's the new triumph bobber, looks nice. Not really that many specs available apart from it's based on the T120.

https://www.bikeexif.com/new-triumph-bobber

https://i.imgur.com/f07FVvL.jpg
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[Evil Hans]

Nice. Not really my cup of tea but there's almost certainly a market for it. Surprised they've not done it before.
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[Polarbear]

Agreed, quite nice but not my cup of tea. I expect they will sell well though. I do like the hardtail look frame I must admit.

Triumph seem to be carving out a niche for selling bikes to the sort of people who like customs but don't want Harleys, almost like the old Triumph days.

Will they even produce a sports bike soon?
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[Mawsley]

Nope by the bucketful, there's too much off the shelf Kings Road tosser going on with this machine. Not me at all. I'm waiting till they target the provincial village idiot tosser demographic.

[bamt]

https://www.motofire.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/triumph-bobber-motofire-2016-23.jpg



Mrs Bamt said she would be up for one of them. Which I guess makes it a girl's bike.

[nitrosurf]

A bobber by definition has less 'stuff' on it as it has been 'bobbed', so obviously this will be much cheaper than a base model...? 🤔

😂

It can't be a bobber anyway, as it was constructed to look like that.

Remember bobbed Range Rovers? I saw a bobbed Mark 1 Discovery once, that looked strange.

Anyway, back to the bike. If all this type of thing is doing so well I may hard tail my bit of eastern promise that's sat in the garage and earn a bit of casharooni from an aspirational hipster; they may be distinguished gentlemen by name but I bet a lot of them won't be able to afford this wee beastie from Trumpet...


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[carpe_diem]

Could anyone who's sat on a hardtail with a seat like that tell me if they have any barse left? I can't help but imagine that riding through a city would result in a taint like that of a puerperal woman.
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[ScaredyCat]

Looks a bit like a Thunderbird Storm with no seat..


https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/188253/_oth/tbs.png

[Rogerborg]

[Polarbear]

There are some nice designs touches on it.

The frame looking hardtail but being soft. The exhausts are lovely for something that has a cat incorporated but whos going to keep them for long when you can fit straight through slash cuts

Yes, it will be bought by people for its image but I would suggest any bike in the retro/custom market is bought with a good eye for image.

And lets be honest, just about every bike is bought with image in mind to some extent. Ewan and Charlie wannabes don't buy BM's to go across Africa and how many R1 owners buy them because of Rossi? Other than commuters, most bikes are toys.

The more I look at that the more I think Triumph have nailed it. They are going to make a lot of dosh on that bike. Good luck to them
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[mkjackary]

https://www.cycleworld.com/sites/cycleworld.com/files/styles/large_1x_/public/images/2016/10/cw1016-2017-triumph-bonneville-bobber-first-look-image-02.jpg

Ride by wire, abs, traction control, riding modes, and no doubt a billion customisation options. (That will cost a fair penny)

[carpe_diem]

[Polarbear]

[Evil Hans]

[carpe_diem]

[stinkwheel]

[G]

Producing competitive sports bikes unfortunately requires considerable investment.

They did really well with the 675 and that lasted them a good while.

Making aesthetic tweaks to an existing platform should be a hell of a lot cheaper all around and can often get a much better investment.

I can still see they might release a circa-800cc version of the 675, as Ducati is doing with the 899 etc - a usable road bike over a bike that'll win races.
Though not sure how well the lump will handle a good bit more power as the current 800s haven't really bumped that up I don't think.

[Alpineandy]

They'll need to increase the 'Motorcycle' parking areas around Chelsea and Shoreditch before next summer...
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[stinkwheel]

In B4 Vetter inspired X75 style bodykit.
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[stevo as b4]

It looks quite well finished and classy and should be a few century's better to ride than another crap stone age Harley model.

I don't have a problem with manufacturers trying to deliberately appeal to certain niche markets or ones that are not generally well regarded by the motorcycling gen pop.

I ain't anti bobber either, but I'd sooner see a home built one off hard tail with a really potent almost completely wasted potential engine like a ZZR 1200 or Fireblade lump instead. What I don't like with the new bike is that it has a style led single front disc brake, and yet is likely to be well over 200kg. Overbraking bikes has never done Yamaha any harm has it?

I think like G and others have said, that Triumph could do more and build some interesting and capable bikes using some of their existing stuff though. A Daytona 800 triple sounds like a good road bike. But also I reckon they could put the 675 engine into a light SM chassis and build a kind of KTM 690SM, but with a 3cyl 675 lump instead. They should also do a factory supercharged high performance Rocket 3 seeing as it seems to like a bit of boost from aftermarket conversions. There's probably room for a cut price 675 Street bike that's lower spec than a street triple, and more first bike like an XJ6 rival etc.

[G]

In it's current setup my 675 track/race bike came out at 165kg with a little fuel.

A few bits lightened, but not much.

Have thought that chucking some long travel suspension, wider bars and enduro/supermoto wheels on it could be interesting.

Not far off the weight off a KTM690SM (the heavier one I don't think they do any more - the SMC is the one to have.)

[Polarbear]

I think people forget that Triumph as the Hinkley brand is a relatively new (1988) and pretty small operation compared to any of the Japanese or even major European motorcycle manufacturers. They don't have the capacity to make legions of different bikes.

So basically they have the 675, 800, 1050 and 1215 triples and the 900 and 1200 twins plus the Rocket 3 engine and all the different variants using those base engines. (Have I missed any?)

They might have other styles of bikes on the drawing board such as G and Stevo suggest but I suspect they have to look at their capacity and decide which bikes are going to be their best earners.

I am quite amazed at their model range as it is and I can't see it getting bigger without a huge improvement in capacity and that is going to cost. As someone said in another thread, Triumph only make motorcycles, not cars, and ships and pianos as well.

I for one think they are doing pretty damn well.

(they should be considering they have directly had £31000 pounds off me for bikes in the last 5 years )
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[G]

Oh yes, I doubt my thoughts would come to fruition because in reality people want an 'adventure' bike with the quotes like the Triumph, rather than one that can do off-road decently.

So it's quite reasonable they go for what offers the best bang for the buck for them.

Even the Japs have barely developed the 600 class and have had to pour massive amounts of money into superbikes. (New R6 out, yes - but will it just be a tweaked 2007 R6 with a R1 electrics plugged in.)

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