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I found the Visor down review informative........
The engine is housed in a brand-new frame, which is also joined by new suspension courtesy of new forks which features bespoke damping for this bike. Being a bobber, this is a hard tail bike although the adjustable floating seat sits on top of a cantiliever spring
https://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-new-bikes/triumph-reveals-new-bonneville-bobber ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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That is such a lovely clean design. It could have been the saviour of NVT. ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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Watching their promo video, I thought "What they REALLY need is a fake kickstarter.... chicks dig kickstarters"*.
Of course, my idea is way too late ... https://www.estmd.com/en/home/73-emd-electric-kick-sportster.html
*Actually have been told by a real-life female that I was extra-cool for the kickstarting on my RD350 when we left a party the morning after . |
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lingeringstin... Trackday Trickster
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Ah now here's a funny thing- I've been riding THIS hardtail for over 20 years and wouldn't have it any other way. That's probably because after having sat arse on the same bike for a quarter of a century in every weather on every kind of surface I now know instinctively how it will act no matter what the road throws at me. Consequently I never come off it, and I am one of those weirdos that even rides in the snow and on icy roads.
But the biggest difference between my rather hastily cobbled up hardtail and most others, usually done for effect, is the riding position. I didn't MEAN to make a permanently hardtail bike, it just had leaky shocks and I was skint at MOT time, so knowing there wasn't anything in the MOT against struts I hastily cobbled up some struts out of old handlebars with the intention of getting new shocks later. But after going around on it like that and liking the stable way it handled, later never happened. So I've been riding around on temporarily cobbled up struts for decades now.
On my miserable bike I'm sat bent forward like I'm on the toilet reading the newspaper. Most other hardtails I ever see have the riding positioned usually bolt upright, possibly with apehangers as well, so the rider's spine takes a beating over every bump.
On mine I'm sort of bent in the middle and my back just flexes with the road bumps, and I do run low air pressure in the tyre too which helps a lot. This strangely enough makes for a really stable and comfortable ride even though it might look a bit silly. On long journeys I only ever stop for petrol, and I usually take the bumpy back roads anyway because they're more interesting. I've also got a very low centre of gravity. My bike is currently so low it will scrape the exhaust on a tight right hander if I'm not paying attention.
I never get back ache from riding, but everybody always says somethinmg about that when they see the bike. It's just EXPECTED to be an arse ache because it's a hardtail and all conventional wisdom (usually regurgitated by people who've never actually done it) says all hardtails are horrible to ride, which is why I almost never ever see any other hardtail on the road unless it's being riden to a bike rally for show. Consequently there are a fair lot of bikes designed to LOOK hardtail, but with hidden suspension, which to me seems kind of pointless and fake.
But I do agree in principle that MOST hardtail bikes are stupidy uncomfortable, but then most hardtail bikes these days are only fashion statements where looks are everything. A hardtail made for hipsters to pose about on is surely a miserable and false thing designed for the hipster look, and lately there's a LOT of stupid hipster design getting into everything.
Sadly I have even been acused of faking the rust on my bike in the past. I didn't even know there WAS such a thing a fake rust look until somebody said that. The mind boggles! |
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On other bikes I've found similar - leant over is actually better for my back as then it's acting more like a hinge, rather than having the force transported straight up the spine.
Oh, the one(s) I was riding were made to be unstable not stable I'd say.
Certainly not made for traction at the rear.
I did come off three times. But twice were due to not using my foot to correct the instability and the other time due to running over a friend, who was lying down infront of me . |
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lingeringstink wrote: | Ah now here's a funny thing- I've been riding THIS hardtail for over 20 years and wouldn't have it any other way. That's probably because after having sat arse on the same bike for a quarter of a century in every weather on every kind of surface I now know instinctively how it will act no matter what the road throws at me. Consequently I never come off it, and I am one of those weirdos that even rides in the snow and on icy roads.
But the biggest difference between my rather hastily cobbled up hardtail and most others, usually done for effect, is the riding position. I didn't MEAN to make a permanently hardtail bike, it just had leaky shocks and I was skint at MOT time, so knowing there wasn't anything in the MOT against struts I hastily cobbled up some struts out of old handlebars with the intention of getting new shocks later. But after going around on it like that and liking the stable way it handled, later never happened. |
Really interesting. I always thought about building a bobber, long before I ever rode a bike. In your case, you didn't mean to make a bobber, but you stuck some struts in just to get the bike through MOT, and, over time, grew to like it and concluded it was better this way. That's quite amazing.
How does it handle? Could you take a corner as fast as you could when you had rear shocks? Is there anything you have to do differently with a hardtail/bobber, for example rolling off the throttle if you hit a bump or lose traction? ____________________ Safety in numbers |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 7 years, 186 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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