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PostPosted: 18:22 - 28 Oct 2016    Post subject: Triumph Sprint ST 955i Overheating Problem Reply with quote

Can't seem to get to the bottom of this. Advice welcome.

Months ago I had a low speed off and my radiator got a tiny crack. I got it repaired but ever since the bike has run hotter and gets very hot if you work it hard and then leave it standing or riding slowly. I have ridden it with the needle well into the red before I got it home. Sad I have been topping it up with water over the summer, so it was losing water: I guess some was boiling and the crack had started leaking again.

It's now got a replacement radiator, which took ages to fill, because the coolant doesn't seem to want to get across it because the inflow and outflow are on the same sides.

It hasn't made any difference. The bike still runs hot. The fan comes on and cools the radiator but the engine stays hot, even though coolant is being pumped around. The water pump seems OK. When you open the drain plug at the bottom of the engine the coolant comes out so it doesn't look like there is an airlock. Thermostat fitted or not doesn't make any difference. The engine itself sounds fine and the bike rides fine. It's just not cooling properly.

Edit: Everything is standard on the bike. No while smoke from the exhaust. I think the head gasket is fine. No leaks.

Anyone got any ideas?
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 28 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it the correct radiator?
Is the coolant mixture 50/50 (distilled water)?
Is there more than one bleed screw?
Have you tried warming the engine up with the rad cap off and topped up until full?
Did you change the air filter, engine oil or fuel type after the off?
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 28 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaffa90 wrote:
Is it the correct radiator?
Is the coolant mixture 50/50 (distilled water)?
Is there more than one bleed screw?
Have you tried warming the engine up with the rad cap off and topped up until full?
Did you change the air filter, engine oil or fuel type after the off?

Radiator isn't Triumph but is correct for bike, has slightly larger capacity. No bleed screw on it Sad but it is completely full. Topped up several times before it was full. Coolant mix is correct. Oil changed, air filter not, no change to fuel. The bike runs fine and power is unchanged.
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 28 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

From your description, presuming the new radiator is compatible there can be really only 2 things that could cause this. Air locking or water pump issues. I'd want a laser temp gun on the radiator inlet and outlet to tell me what the coolant is doing because I think it is a flow problem.

I take it there was no problem before the off and it was never right after that happened, with either radiator
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 28 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The radiator being slow to fill sounds odd. I would also suspect a flow problem.

Quick and dirty test is to take it off the bike and run a garden hose through it. If the water flow through nice and quick, no problem. If it's only dribbling out one end, you have a blockage.
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PostPosted: 23:45 - 28 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did the exhaust get damaged after the off?
If not and for piece of mind take it to a tuning specialist and check for a weak mixture or gas analyzer.
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 29 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem started after the crash not after the rad change. This means that the problem is not the rad. Does the bike have a thermostatic valve, is the pump working, is the fan cutting in?
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PostPosted: 11:37 - 29 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariel Badger wrote:
The problem started after the crash not after the rad change. This means that the problem is not the rad. Does the bike have a thermostatic valve, is the pump working, is the fan cutting in?


Yup. I was hoping a new rad would cure it but no. Thermostat off at the moment so coolant should be circulating. Pump is working, fan is working. Talking about it on here makes me think there's a blockage where the coolant circulates around the block. I'll double check the pump too.
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 29 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diet coke is great for breaking up blockages.
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PostPosted: 12:42 - 29 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Faulty sensor?
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 29 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

noobRider wrote:
Ariel Badger wrote:
The problem started after the crash not after the rad change. This means that the problem is not the rad. Does the bike have a thermostatic valve, is the pump working, is the fan cutting in?


Yup. I was hoping a new rad would cure it but no. Thermostat off at the moment so coolant should be circulating. Pump is working, fan is working. Talking about it on here makes me think there's a blockage where the coolant circulates around the block. I'll double check the pump too.


How do you 'check the pump' without just replacing it. I ask cause a friends Lister diesel had an over heating problem. I checked the pump, seemed fine but still couldn't cure it. In the end I just fitted a new pump and everything was good.
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 29 Oct 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
How do you 'check the pump' without just replacing it


I guess take it off and see if it pumps? I might just replace it, may be easier than looking at the flow around the block. It's not a sensor, it's running very hot and will boil coolant if you hoon. Not that I hoon of course.
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