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Lord Percy
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 12 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I said all MSM generally tends to attract more Liberals.

I only brought the BBC into it to address Village Val's link, where he forgot to read the bit about the BBC at the end, which proved that the majority of MSM in the UK isn't as right wing as he was trying top make out with his link.



Probably depends on what people choose to expose themselves to.

As far as I'm aware, the only left wing publications in the UK are the Independent and Guardian, and the Mirror.

The rest are centre or right.

I'd say British media is more right than left.

It's still all an utter mess though, every publication is just racing to the bottom churning out utter tripe to gain readership. Left or right bias, most stories are equally absurd.
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 12 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
mpd72 wrote:
Lord Percy wrote:


Probably depends on what people choose to expose themselves to.

As far as I'm aware, the only left wing publications in the UK are the Independent and Guardian, and the Mirror.

The rest are centre or right.

I'd say British media is more right than left.

It's still all an utter mess though, every publication is just racing to the bottom churning out utter tripe to gain readership. Left or right bias, most stories are equally absurd.


I don't think that's true of TV. The BBC is obviously left, ITV news bulletins take a left wing slant on stories and Channel 4 news is as Liberal as the LibDem party.
Of the main TV channels, the only main channels who appear to be right of centre is Sky.


Russia Today? That's worth a watch when you get bored off the BBC's mush.
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PostPosted: 18:47 - 12 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lord Percy wrote:

Probably depends on what people choose to expose themselves to.

As far as I'm aware, the only left wing publications in the UK are the Independent and Guardian, and the Mirror.

The rest are centre or right.

I'd say British media is more right than left.

It's still all an utter mess though, every publication is just racing to the bottom churning out utter tripe to gain readership. Left or right bias, most stories are equally absurd.


What a joke they are these days. I used to enjoy reading them now and again, obviously taking into account their quite obvious left/liberal bias.

Last year or two tho and they now produce complete trash, clickbaitey articles that are just complete shite.
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 12 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Last year or two tho and they now produce complete trash, clickbaitey articles that are just complete shite.

<stinkwheel>If you're not paying for it, you're the product rather than the customer.</stinkwheel>

Your eyeball to their owners' adverts. The intelligentsia can never be the mass market.
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 12 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I don't think that's true of TV. The BBC is obviously left


Seriously what exactly are you talking about? I have watched today BBC and Sky news and both were absolutely the same as coverage and comentar.

The BBC is a right wing propaganda outlet.

Only you and your favorite Daily Heil claims the BBC is left wing. That does not make it true. The facts show different story.

https://www.nomagic.org.uk/is-the-bbc-left-wing-or-right-wing

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Is the BBC Left-Wing or Right-Wing?

The BBC is rarely free from ideological complainants. Tabloid newspapers claim that the Beeb is forever peddling left–wing propaganda. The general public, according to various opinion polls, mostly thinks of it as subservient to power, hence right–wing.

It all depends on how you define the terms, of course. If we take relatively straightforward dictionary–style definitions,

‘left–wing’ means representing or promoting the interests of the less powerful, i.e. the general population, and
‘right–wing’ means representing or promoting the interests of the powerful, i.e. the owners of economic capital and political power.

The BBC is Right–Wing

By those definitions, the BBC is clearly right–wing in the two main aspects of its news coverage:

the selection of events it covers
and the uncritical manner in which those events are covered.


Have you ever seen even one critical to the government and Theresa May news coverage lately on BBC?

You have not. All we see is heil the great dictator TM.

Here are the facts: https://theconversation.com/hard-evidence-how-biased-is-the-bbc-17028

FYI tomorrow BBC will do interview with Le Pen. I see Farage more often there then the pope.

Left wing my ass.
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 12 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
I remember when I got in a wee tizz because the BBC seemed to be suppressing information about massive protests that went on in London and across Europe. There were several major anti-austerity marches that got almost no coverage and, more recently, when London taxi drivers brought the city to a gridlock in protest against Uber there was barely any coverage at all, at least not to the extent that I think it should have been.

Bloody right wing BBC, being all right wing.
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PostPosted: 01:22 - 13 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
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HIGNFY used to be funny, now there's no balance and it's become Have I Got Left Wing Views For You.

Last nights had 3 pro left on the panel alongside Lipman, a self declared socialist, who threatened to leave the U.K. for being too anti Semitic and Brooker, another left wing satirist.

Last nights show was basically a whine about the right wing candidate getting in during the US election. There was then an anti Brexit whine, followed by an anti Farage bit, then repeat.


HIGNFY? Seriously that is the best you can do? Give as an example of news some comedy show?

What a pathetic example. I feel sorry for you. What a loser.

It would be nice if you can actually have a real news to prove your thesis. As I have said many times the facts are not your strong suit.

INB4 Andrew Marr tomorrow interview with Le Pen been left wing.

Probably if you are BNP.

As the links I have provided for you prove that all BBC news actually are much more right wing then Daily Heil will tell you.

Sky is more left wing then BBC for gawd sake they at least have press preview where they invite at least two people there. The same can't be told for BBC news where you hear only Theresa May point of view.
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PostPosted: 09:12 - 13 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Val wrote:
INB4 Andrew Marr tomorrow interview with Le Pen been left wing.

Versus Comrade Corbyn. I'm sure Marr will remain strictly neutral.

Seen Question Time recently? It's human bear beating, with an SJW rentamob audience howling down the token realist on the panel whenever they fight back against the pack of Trots, liberal academics and ecomentals being sicced on them.
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 13 Nov 2016    Post subject: media schmedia Reply with quote
The best solution is to stop listening to mainstream media. It's mostly all lies.

For instance, if you watch a Yank news article about an incident in say Aleppo or somewhere what you get is some distant, suited talking head behind a desk in an office somewhere telling you what you should think, and why.

But go to for instance RT or Aljazeera or somewhere for info on that same news story and you'll get an actual independent reporter at the actual scene speakinbg to actual eyewitnesses and showing actual video, sometimes live, of what is ACTUALLY going on and it always differs from what the mainstream media talking head says.

I know who I'd listen to.
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PostPosted: 10:57 - 13 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
To answer your question yes, but hasn't it always?

On topic https://uk.businessinsider.com/harvard-professor-finds-campaign-policy-issues-absent-from-media-2016-9?r=US&IR=T
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 13 Nov 2016    Post subject: Re: media schmedia Reply with quote
lingeringstink wrote:
But go to for instance RT or Aljazeera or somewhere for info on that same news story and you'll get an actual independent reporter at the actual scene speakinbg to actual eyewitnesses and showing actual video, sometimes live, of what is ACTUALLY going on and it always differs from what the mainstream media talking head says.

I know who I'd listen to.


RT and AJ have their place, but too many people go down the path of blindly following RT just like other people blindly follow BBC.

All media is going to have their own spin and bias put on things. RT will most def have a russian bias just like BBC has american bias and CNN has a USA bias. You just have to be aware of bias when you read things, I'll read a Guardian article but knowing it is gonna have a strong liberal bias to it.
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 13 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Yeah the black hype is a massive surprise actually. It's blatantly a direct import from the US "black lives" malarkey.

The reason it's such an obvious load of shite is because this:

https://i64.tinypic.com/71n4nq.png

So if it's to even be discussed, then surely the question should be when will we have an Asian PM? "Asian Lives Matter!"

"Oh but black people have been in the UK longer so they get to go first." Rolling Eyes ... or something like that.
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 13 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Lord Percy wrote:
I'm so naive that I believe immigration figures based on a "passenger" survey, even 5 year old ones




You really do like to add an extra dose of cuntish vindictiveness to every post you make.

Did you brain actually compute the point I was making in the above post? Read it again and you may just be able to figure out that I was agreeing with you.
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PostPosted: 23:55 - 13 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yes, in short.

Check out a docu-film called Starsuckers... Hooking the young on fame is not great.
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PostPosted: 13:01 - 14 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lord Percy wrote:
https://i64.tinypic.com/71n4nq.png

A more churlish, suspicious type than me would wonder if the current agitating by Afro-Caribbean Brits is due to the realisation that they're not the Only Mardy Ethnics In the Constituency any more.

Many of them made the mistake of integrating and becoming decent citizens, which put special privilege Afro-agitators out of a job (*cough* Trevor Phillips *cough*). They're just not special enough any more.

<Hitler example>You don't often hear of Afro rape gangs not being investigated so as to avoid causing "community tension"</Hitler example>

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PostPosted: 10:58 - 15 Nov 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lord Percy wrote:


You really do like to add an extra dose of cuntish vindictiveness to every post you make.

Did you brain actually compute the point I was making in the above post? Read it again and you may just be able to figure out that I was agreeing with you.


Lol. Set him to enemy. Reading his drivel is like poking yourself in the eye with a fork, then complaining about the fork. Mr. Green
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