So this happened...

UnknownStuntm... · World Chat Champion Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Karma :

Albigularis wrote:

Her tax lapsed on the 1st of September.

lol$

bigdom86 · Traffic Copper Joined: 17 Jul 2015 Karma :

ahhh nothing like a self-righteous power hungry copper, as above make her wish she didn't backchat you Twisted Evil

chris-red · Have you considered a TDM? Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Karma :

IPCC for sure. Thumbs Up

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Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

It needs to go via Scotplod Professional Standards first: https://www.scotland.police.uk/secureforms/police-complaints/

I'd note that temporary trespass is a civil tort in Scotland, the remedies being interdiction ("gonnae no") or damages (what loss did the land owner suffer)? Their threatening you with it as though it were a criminal matter is pig ignorant, although I'd pronounce that as malfeasance.

However, the primary goal is money-money-money. That's a civil matter between Albigularis and Senga McDibble, which is why I suggest just firing in with an invoice and getting the ball rolling.
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Azoth · Brolly Dolly Joined: 07 Jul 2016 Karma :

I know nothing of Scots law, but pursuing this matter with the relevant police complaints body is very important, and it should be done concurrently with your claim.

You will note that their Plan A was to leave the bike in a damaged state and watch you from a position of hiding. Plan B was to make contact with you and misuse police property to dissuade you from chasing them up for the damage. Plan B only came into operation when, from their position of hiding, they spied you taking a photograph of the scratch on the offending car.

Plan A involved leaving unattended a bike that was leaking fuel. The police knew the bike was leaking fuel and should have carried out a risk assessment at the scene, if necessary calling the fire brigade to make the area safe, to stop the leak and put down sand. They didn't do this. They put the public at risk and didn't take steps to make it safe. Make sure you mention that as part of your complaint.
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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

Or just gather your evidence, throw the insursance claim and see what happens.
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Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

Would probably be the easiest, if least satisfying, route to compo.

No need to mention anything about it being private land. That's for her to argue, if she's truly dim enough to make herself personally liable.
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Motorhate · Nearly there... Joined: 02 Aug 2013 Karma :

Hmmm... Private land, no tax? Surely that's immaterial or should she have SORN'd it? And if there's no tax then surely insurance not valid?
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Rogerborg · nimbA Joined: 26 Oct 2010 Karma :

No VED is OK unless it's actually on a road (as opposed to a public place).

This played to my advantage when my first car caught fire in a car park when it was "between" VED. Whistle

As soon as Dibble had seen the certificate of insurance, they had no further questions.

I wouldn't make an issue of it, it's not relevant to the claim.
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J4mes · World Chat Champion Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Karma :

In for later, and just to say:

1, please follow the advice on here and run with it

2, for the love of God please keep us updated!

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Hahadumball · World Chat Champion Joined: 07 Oct 2015 Karma :

sounds like a fucking cock i say screw them over and make an example out of them.

go to the papers innit

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mikester · Trackday Trickster Joined: 04 Mar 2012 Karma :

Disgusting behaviour by those officers if it played out how you said it has.

You should complain directly by 101 first before going to your equivalent of the IPCC. Who was the cop that brought you inside, her sgt or just another officer?

I know people don't believe that complaints against police made to the force direct go anywhere but believe me they do, even the most petty get logged and have to be looked at by the officers supervisor.

Professional standard departments within forces are ruthless in investigating their own, don't believe what left wing propaganda is out there about corruption and cops getting away with stuff. People have lost their job over stupid administrative mistakes let alone driving into motorbikes and abusing their position like has occurred here.

Chase this, don't let these two chumps continue ruining the reputation for others in the job who are decent cops.

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Nobby the Bastard · Harley Gaydar Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Karma :

To the best of my knowledge, every government agency/department self-insures for core work, mainly because it works out cheaper than insuring all the vehicles/drivers.
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trevor saxe-coburg-gotha · World Chat Champion Joined: 22 Nov 2012 Karma :

thread is so delivering right now
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DJP · Crazy Courier Joined: 11 Dec 2011 Karma :

I think that people are missing the point.

A private motorist knocked over the OP's bike. Simple as that.

It's a straightforward insurance claim.

The fact that she's a police officer is irrelevant: She wasn't driving a police vehicle and presumably wasn't acting in an official capacity at the time.

A complaint vs the police won't go anywhere because it's a private matter and re the conversation that took place in the nick, she'll just say that she was exchanging details with the OP as required after an RTC.
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