The Grand Tour.....

[c_dug]

I'm pretty sure the talking lap(s) and timed lap are not one and the same.

Doesn't really matter who the driver is, so long as they're the same throughout the show - IMO a fair comparison is what counts the most. The biggest difference is surely the drivers knowledge of the track, arguably the same car would have a better chance of a top time at the end of season 3 compared to the beginning of season 1.
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[M.C]

It doesn't take long to learn a short track like that, maybe something like the original Nurburgring or Isle of Man TT course then yes

I wonder if Clarkson was being serious when he said they insisted the driver had to be an American? That would narrow the choices somewhat (being filmed in the U.K. etc.).

[Fizzoid]

[panrider_uk]

The car bits themselves are ok, as is the news section, but the "drama" sections seem to be getting worse with each episode.
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[smallfrowne]

Bloody hell, that second episode, what was it all about? Dragged on for days.

Maybe some of the problem is that they've been given carte blanche, they can just do what they want, but it's not remotely funny nor endearing. Mind you they had plenty of money to play with before, and that wasn't right funny in the end either.

I think if they were restricted in some way then they'd have to think of something fun to get round it. I've gone right off 'em I 'ave and that was the nail in the coffin for me. I remember an old TG episode where they souped up an old Lada by giving it to Lotus and the bloke that wrote the book on twin cam tuning, that seemed like fun (and the start of fun top gear), but that high budget anti terrorist thing they did, what the hell was that? Really, what the flying fuck are they doing? Trying their best to make that audi interesting? Well actually, I suppose they had their work cut out, maybe I'll give them another chance.

But back to the Lada, after they did that it left a kind of "What crazy antics are they gonna get up to next week?" feeling and it's gradually worn off. Now with all this money they have few ideas, and any ideas they do have get hammed up tae feck.

Oh and the anti-celeb thing, if they do another running joke about it (they will), it'll be almost as bad as them just interviewing the fuckers. They are sat at Chris Evans level of annoyance for me right now, well maybe not, but nearly.
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[Rogerborg]

They aimed for the lowest common denominator, and missed by several feet to the south.
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[MarJay]

[M.C]

[MarJay]

[M.C]

[M.C]

Episode 3's much better, as they're actually using those things with 4 wheels, what are they called again?

[grr666]

Still haven't sat and watched any of these yet.
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[adriansk]

[grr666]

Don't need link personally, I have Amazon Prime anyway. I'm banking on watching them during Christmas.
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[M.C]

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

[Sable]

Episode 1 I have forgotten. Episode 2 I have almost forgotten, but I remember it was very repetitive. Episode 3 could have been good if it didn't pummel Hammonds annoying larks into the ground.

Underwhelmed so far tbh.

[bladerunner]

Maybe they can now hire Nick Rosberg and call him the Stug for the fast laps
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[RhynoCZ]

[Sable]

Half way through episode 4 and I am browsing BCF. I have now forgotten episodes 1, 2 and 3 entirely along with the first half of episode 4.

Either 1 of 2 things has happened. Either I have alzheimer's disease and I am going to die soon or I have become one of them people bored of top gear that goes on the internet to complain about how Top Gear / Grand Tour isn't as good as it was before.

Good god I hope I have alzheimer's...

[Ribenapigeon]

I watched episode 1 and thought it was ok but then somehow just found better things to do than watch the other episodes.

[carvell]

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2016/dec/09/the-grand-tour-everything-that-was-wrong-with-clarkson-era-top-gear?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Hits the nail on the head...
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[Rogerborg]

[M.C]

People bawwing about the scripting's moronic, Top Gear was always scripted, they never hid that fact. You can argue it has become less subtle over the years, but you can still see it if you watch the older episodes of TG.

I dunno what people were expecting? They've carried on where they left off, and why wouldn't they, it's a formula that has made them all incredibly wealthy.

[Dave....]

Looking for latest episode link if anyone can oblige.
Everyone I find leads to last episode.