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Ok, so this has been going on for a while now, and it is more obvious in Asian countries than the UK I suppose, but really... for the fuck.
Since when did the scruffy little arsonists become demigods incapable of harm or foul, and only stopped from attaining their incredible heights by whichever fucker is not performing their job correctly.
It seems like children are becoming more and more immune to taking on any form of responsibility themselves for their own success. The teacher is boring, the school is underfunded, the city lacks community centers... he isn't troublesome, you just need to prove him with X/Y/Z.
It has been growing since my generation, but there was a sense of proportion back then. Now the little feckers are treated by their parents like politicians treat the electorate... what would you like sir/madam, let me arrange it for you.
This does not end well. There are plenty of cultures still beating their kids with pillowcases full of soap if they don't get an A in all exams... Who haven't sat them in front of the surrogate iPad since they turned 2 years old.... Who haven't seen any constructive criticism of their spawn as a personal attack on the core of their being.
These cultures seem like they will be raising distinctly more useful humans in the future.
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Parents that can accept zero accountability.
I would argue this is only prevalent in certain groups of society. Certainly plenty of native parents giving their kids a damn good thrashing if they don't achieve decent results/try their hardest. ____________________ My Flickr |
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| Nobby the Bastard wrote: | Having to hit a child to discipline him/her is a sign of low intelligence. | Not really, it's instinctive and part of an overall disciplinary process.
IIRC Stephen Fry summed it up nicely when they first started making it a criminal offence,
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| Andy_Pagin wrote: | | Nobby the Bastard wrote: | Having to hit a child to discipline him/her is a sign of low intelligence. | Not really, it's instinctive and part of an overall disciplinary process.
IIRC Stephen Fry summed it up nicely when they first started making it a criminal offence,
when a tigress's cubs get annoying she growls at them, it that doesn't work she clouts them. Being a tiger she could easily kill them, buy she doesn't, instinctively she uses just enough force to get the message across. People are the same. |
No it isn't and no they aren't. It's the preserve of animals that do not have the power to communicate.
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| Stephen Fry wrote: | We are living in a statistically rare and improbable period of British life. The last twenty years are the only twenty years of our history in which children have not been beaten for misbehaviour. Every Briton you can think of, from Chaucer to Churchill, from Shakespeare to Shilton, was beaten as a child. If you are under thirty, then you are the exception. Maybe we are on the threshold of a brave new world of balanced and beautiful Britons. I hope so.
You won’t find me offering the opinion that beating is a good thing or recommending the return of the birch. I frankly regard corporal punishment as of no greater significance in the life of most human beings than bustles, hula-hoops, flared trousers, side-whiskers or any other fad. Until, that is, one says that it isn’t. Which is to say, the moment mankind decides that a practice like beating is of significance then it becomes of significance. I should imagine that were I a child now and found myself being beaten by schoolmasters I would be highly traumatised by the experience, for every cultural signal would tell me that beating is, to use the American description, a "cruel and unusual punishment" and I would feel singled out for injustice and smart and wail accordingly. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 9 years, 31 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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