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Commuter_Tim
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 04 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
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In my extensive experience falling of things with 2 wheels, motorbikes throw you off with more force. You know how for days afterwards you feel like you've been raped by a giant Panda? Shifty

Come on dude, are you discussing Injuries when falling, or Stes dreams, make up your mind! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 10:36 - 07 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
MarkJF wrote:
"Dr Walker, who was struck by a bus and a truck in the course of the experiment, spent half the time wearing a cycle helmet and half the time bare-headed. He was wearing the helmet both times he was struck."


Because one cylist having two incidents is a valid basis for an argument?

Both times I came off my bike it was a Tuesday, so I would advise everyone to stay in bed on Tuesday. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 07 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
pudder wrote:
MarkJF wrote:
"Dr Walker, who was struck by a bus and a truck in the course of the experiment, spent half the time wearing a cycle helmet and half the time bare-headed. He was wearing the helmet both times he was struck."


Because one cylist having two incidents is a valid basis for an argument?

Both times I came off my bike it was a Tuesday, so I would advise everyone to stay in bed on Tuesday. Thumbs Up


You didn't read it then? It was an in-depth study of 1000's of overtaking movements, with and without, a helmet being worn. Given the result, perhaps the only surprising thing is that he was only knocked off twice whilst wearing his helmet.

Maybe Dr Ian Walker, a traffic psychologist from the University of Bath didn't conduct the thesis it to spark off sensible helmet debate, but just for a bit of fun?
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 07 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
MarkJF wrote:
You didn't read it then? It was an in-depth study of 1000's of overtaking movements, with and without, a helmet being worn. Given the result, perhaps the only surprising thing is that he was only knocked off twice whilst wearing his helmet.

Maybe Dr Ian Walker, a traffic psychologist from the University of Bath didn't conduct the thesis it to spark off sensible helmet debate, but just for a bit of fun?


No I hadn't had time to read it, but that was the bolded headline.

Having now read it, I'm surprised at the findings. I wouldn't have said I consciously clock whether or not a cyclist has a helmet, and if so I would have said I give the same space regardless.

However, I would probably assume that a lycra-d up cyclist is more in control of their bike than someone in casual clothes, in the same way that I expect more unpredicatability from someone not wearing motorbike gear.
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 07 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: 14:22 - 07 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
pudder wrote:
I would probably assume that a lycra-d up cyclist is more in control of their bike than someone in casual clothes.

I wouldn't Shocked
In my experience they're at least as unpredictable, and practice their unpredictability at higher speed, I think the psychology is along the lines of 'I've got all the gear so I must be an expert'.
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PostPosted: 14:29 - 07 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
The ones in lycra normally have a undeserved sense of entitlement, you know like other road users Wink, so are more likely to be dicks IMO. I don't think the really skinny tyres help either.
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 07 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
M.C wrote:
The ones in lycra normally have a undeserved sense of entitlement, you know like other road users Wink

Horse riders? Mad
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 07 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
So, don't wear a cyclist helmet whilst riding a horse to school?
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PostPosted: 08:40 - 08 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dimerz wrote:
So, don't wear a cyclist helmet whilst riding a horse to school?

No point, you'll be told to take it off at the petrol station.
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PostPosted: 08:52 - 08 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
not sure how it is with your school op but my nieces school has told the sixth formers they are not allowed to ride a moped to school

or they are but cant park it on school property or leave motorcycle gear on school property

she was looking into one for pottering about on and getting to work and back but now thinks its a waste of time
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 08 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
andyscooter wrote:
not sure how it is with your school op but my nieces school has told the sixth formers they are not allowed to ride a moped to school

or they are but cant park it on school property or leave motorcycle gear on school property

she was looking into one for pottering about on and getting to work and back but now thinks its a waste of time


Nah schools fine with it, already asked them.
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MarkJF
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 10 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
pudder wrote:

No I hadn't had time to read it, but that was the bolded headline.

Having now read it, I'm surprised at the findings. I wouldn't have said I consciously clock whether or not a cyclist has a helmet, and if so I would have said I give the same space regardless.

However, I would probably assume that a lycra-d up cyclist is more in control of their bike than someone in casual clothes, in the same way that I expect more unpredicatability from someone not wearing motorbike gear.


Fair enough. I found it surprising too as I assumed I'd always give cyclists the same room regardless. Thought provoking though, helmet = good, is shown to be not always so.

Regarding lycra clad, that was an interesting comment because to me I usually think the opposite, I see a % of lycra clad cyclists (mamils) as the cycling equivalent of middle aged, leather clad blokes wobbling out of Dales car parks on sports bikes and I keep well clear of those guys!

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PostPosted: 12:14 - 10 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
M.C wrote:
The ones in lycra normally have a undeserved sense of entitlement, you know like other road users Wink, so are more likely to be dicks IMO. I don't think the really skinny tyres help either.


Nah, normally they wear lycra so normal clothing doesn't act as a sail. The shirts also provide safe places to store food, tubes, repair kits etc. If I am going for a sunny day ride out, I wear it, commuting or touring, I don't bother.
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