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PostPosted: 15:33 - 02 Dec 2016    Post subject: Sharia law patrol in Germany OK'd by German court Reply with quote
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 02 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
That list of verdicts is pretty eye opening. I thought we (by which I mean muslim women in the UK) had it bad under Sharia May, but we've really just been turning a blind eye to the mentalism occurring in sharia courts "councils".

It seems like Jerry has gone full retard and actually adopted sharia into its own courts. The one about refusing a divorce because beating a disobedient wife is sanctioned in the Koran, wow. Shocked
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I don't think distributing leaflets is against the law here either...

"The ruling, which effectively legitimizes Sharia law in Germany" / " Sharia law patrol in Germany OK'd by German court"

No, not is doesn't - it simply says distributing leaflets isn't illegal.
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 02 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's not just passive leaflet-distribution though, it's face-to-face haranguing and intimidation. The local Dibble is clear enough about that, it's the court that's bending over backwards to believe their taqiyah about being ever so polite and moderate.
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 02 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I don't think distributing leaflets is against the law here either...

"The ruling, which effectively legitimizes Sharia law in Germany" / " Sharia law patrol in Germany OK'd by German court"

No, not is doesn't - it simply says distributing leaflets isn't illegal.

So the sharia patrols in Tower Hamlets, telling anyone with alcohol or homosexuals to do one, you're ok with that too?
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 02 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
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So the sharia patrols in Tower Hamlets, telling anyone with alcohol or homosexuals to do one, you're ok with that too?


I've read nothing about them so I'd suggest my comments were appropriate for this particular story not some other story.

If you'd like to point me at the story you're referring to, go ahead. I can't promise you a result in either direction, until I've read it.
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 02 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I've read nothing about them so I'd suggest my comments were appropriate for this particular story not some other story.

If you'd like to point me at the story you're referring to, go ahead. I can't promise you a result in either direction, until I've read it.

They're both stories of religious people feeling the need to 'patrol' and enforce express their views. I think you'll find whatever the circumstances this is a bad thing.
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So the sharia patrols in Tower Hamlets, telling anyone with alcohol or homosexuals to do one, you're ok with that too?


Ok, so I've read it.

The two are entirely different.

The Tower Hamlets one involved assault. The German one was leafleting.

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They're both stories of religious people feeling the need to 'patrol' and express their views. I think you'll find whatever the circumstances this is a bad thing.


That's what free speech brings.

Regardless of whether or not you agree with them, you're for free speech, right? Or do you think we need nannying to the extent we remove it?
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That's what free speech brings.

Regardless of whether or not you agree with them, you're for free speech, right? Or do you think we need nannying to the extent we remove it?

I'm against people forcing their religious beliefs on others, it leads to the Tower Hamlets situation. Does free speech include homophobia, sexism, and inciting hatred?
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So I can safely stand outside a Mosque and offer my opinion on their cult can I? Or will I be mob beaten half to death
and eventually see the whole thing blamed upon cultural differences™ with the only probable arrest being me.

How did the Mohoumous cartoons go down in Denmark and Sweden? Other countries with this 'free speech' you speak freely of.
Satanic Verses anyone? You can slag off anything with little fear of reprisal but the headbangers go batshit when someone
offends them. Easy to do as just about anything that doesn't come out of the Koran terrorist manual gets them going
something rotten.

Free speech is only that if everyone respects that particular man made law.
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I'm against people forcing their religious beliefs on others, it leads to the Tower Hamlets situation. Does free speech include homophobia, sexism, and inciting hatred?


It's going to depend on your personal view. If you don't feel free speech trumps your right to be offended then you'll answer no.

Free speech means you will hear things you don't like and don't agree with. Censorship is the suppression of things you find offensive. What one person finds offensive another does not.

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So I can safely stand outside a Mosque and offer my opinion on their cult can I?


Britain First did it. I don't see why you can't
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Free speech means you will hear things you don't like and don't agree with. Censorship is the suppression of things you find offensive. What one person finds offensive another does not.

So a homosexual being told he isn't welcome in a particular area, free speech right?
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grr666 wrote:
So I can safely stand outside a Mosque and offer my opinion on their cult can I?


Britain First did it. I don't see why you can't

Yeah, they did it with a mob of leering skinheads on crowd control filming them. Probably enough to keep the arsesniffers
at bay tbh. But could I, as a lone concerned citizen, passport holder and taxpayer stand alone and do it without my likely
suggested outcome? What makes them believe reacting that way is acceptable in civilised countries?

I'll take my one guess now please.

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PostPosted: 00:10 - 03 Dec 2016    Post subject: Reply with quote
M.C wrote:
ScaredyCat wrote:

Free speech means you will hear things you don't like and don't agree with. Censorship is the suppression of things you find offensive. What one person finds offensive another does not.

So a homosexual being told he isn't welcome in a particular area, free speech right?


Yes, that's free speech. The free speech you're looking for, where people only get to say things you like or don't find offensive, isn't actually free speech.

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I'll take my one guess now please.


You wouldn't do it because you've made your decision as to the outcome.
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As would any sane individual. I'm slightly more concerned about how the resultant (and illegal) inevitable mob violence would
be swiftly swept under the rug, and how the actions of the mob would be pinned on the (non muslim) person exercising their
legal free speech. It's a bit like a two tier system of law really isn't it? Until they take over of course and become majority,
then I'm certain a great many things won't be freely engaged in ever again under pain of unpleasant beheady type death.
Tower Hamlets is unrecognisable after about 40 years of mass influx, to the point where the only thing to suggest it's not
Dustbowlistan, are the numberplates on the cars. The very existence of Sharia Squad, even as a concept is two fingers up
to free speech in a secular society, can you not see that?
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Yes, that's free speech. The free speech you're looking for, where people only get to say things you like or don't find offensive, isn't actually free speech.

And there's me thinking there were laws and rights, now I know you can do whatever you want under the banner of free speech. Brilliant Clapping
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Lots of angry words about mosques


You would probably find the same result protesting about something outside a mosque as you would outside a church. The imam or priest would invite you in for a chat and a cuppa.

You're only going to get mobbed if you manage to find the local nutter mosque, which would be the same result as if you tried that against the local nutter church (adopting the American style hard-right christianity) or the scientologists.
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ScaredyCat wrote:

Yes, that's free speech. The free speech you're looking for, where people only get to say things you like or don't find offensive, isn't actually free speech.


Saying "I don't like Homosexuality based on the opinions of my imaginary friend" is free speech.

saying "no homos in our neighborhood, you have to go away, we are the law here and don't abide by the laws of this state" is intimidation and harassment.

Or do you think it would be ok to tell people no muslims are allowed on your street (even if not physically enforcing it) then follow them down the street giving them leaflets telling them god wants then dead? or would that be a bad thing?
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The Tower Hamlets one involved assault. The German one was leafleting.

Do you genuinely believe that, or are you asserting innocence until guilt is proven?
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You're only going to get mobbed if you manage to find the local nutter mosque.

You mean there's more than one type??? Thankfully there isn't one that local to me. Where you find a hive, there's
usually a swarm nearby to fill it. Small towns have their advantages. You'd struggle to fill a mini bus with muslims here.
Not why I chose here, but certainly a happy accident. I have always been 1000% clear on my thoughts about muslims,
I believe these people are a threat to our very way of life. I'd happily see every last one deported. Just being honest.
I have a real problem with their religion not their skin colour. Islam is not a race. Yet.
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