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| Itchy wrote: | | mpd72 wrote: | You live in the UK and probably hold a UK passport, yet you constantly slag the country off and contrast it with the awesome Peoples Communist Republic of China. |
I dunno do you have a big inferiority complex or something?
Because you take legitimate criticisms as if it's slagging off. There is a very large difference between slagging off and legitimate criticism. Perhaps you're not very worldy as other places can do things better unless you class those things as slagging off or racism.
Here's another bit of free advice we're #1 and awesome at everything is a bad position to be in as it stymies progress and makes you complacent.
| Quote: | You constantly refer to the UK and it's citizens as "you", to distance yourself. Until you drop this attitude, stop whining about being treated as an outsider. You create the divide, not others on here.  |
Ha here's where you show how naive you are. Nothing happens in a vacuum. I didn't wake up one day and think like this. People are a product of their experiences. You talk about this yourself with seeing people on the M11 or whatever motorway it is.
There was a perhaps naive feeling things had changed. The massive overt violence of the 60s and 70s had reduced considerably it didn't go away completely. I even thought it myself things had changed. What had actually happened is I'd worked 100 hour weeks for years on end and simply didn't notice it as life was work, sleep eat, work. When I had more free time I realised that a great many things hadn't changed much if at all or had merely become more covert.
You're now going to babble about how we want special treatment. What special treatment would that be? I now predict you're going to say that you expect us to suck your dicks.
Is not wanting to be harassed or subject to violence special treatment? Not really it's a basic human need, unless of course you consider us to be subhuman.
Is wanting an equal shake of the stick special treatment?
For instance you say a whole load about best person for the job yet is this actually reality? Remember the name CV discrimination study? Or a long gone BCF poster who pretty much said if he sees a non white name he immediately bins the CV? Does this fit into your narrative of meritocracy? |
I really don't understand why you love playing the victimised minority so much. What is it with your persona, which craves playing the persecuted outsider?
It's not normal behavior surely?
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| Itchy wrote: | unless of course you consider us to be subhuman. |
I generally assume that South East Asians are intellectually superior.
I'm beginning to wonder if I should add monomaniacal to that stereotype.
Anyway, back at the scheduled witch-hunt, Dame Louise Casey's suppressed report on islam in the UK is starting to leak and it's looking pretty bad for the Noproblemistas (Daily Hate link, the Times has it paywalled).
I'll postpone the pogrom until the whole thing is out, but it appears that it's going to take some pretty robust doublethink to memory hole it.
Who'd have thunk that Dame Casey would have turned out to be a Nazi. 
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| Itchy wrote: | And it's a pretty shrewd move on their part right? |
No, it's self-defeating and actually quite ignorant. If I disagreed with the values of a country, I wouldn't stay there because of hand-outs.
| Quote: | Take away all those props and self advantages and what happens? Guess which groups earn the most today? Or the racial make up of Silicon valley these days. |
So whiteys are only successful because of racism? 
| Quote: | Nah it's pretending to give other groups a leg up when really the leg up is for yourself. |
That's funny because at school there were trips for Afro-Caribbean kids only, award ceremonies for Afro-Caribbean kids only, funding for businesses for Afro-Caribbean's only, housing for Afro-Caribbean's only, jobs for Afro-Caribbean's only... I didn't realise that was actually benefiting whiteys 
| Quote: | Nothing happens in a vacuum. I didn't wake up one day and think like this. People are a product of their experiences. |
And what are we doing? I grew up and live in a black neighbourhood, I've seen how much crime there's, I've seen/experienced how whiteys are often the target of that crime. I've experienced being in the minority and been 'mistreated' by those who claim mistreatment for being a minority.
What does that tell you about human beings? If the UK was majority black, majority Asian, majority Chinese would things be any different? Are African countries, Asian (middle-eastern) countries, your beloved socialist utopia fairer, more equal and more just countries? |
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| M.C wrote: | No, it's self-defeating and actually quite ignorant. If I disagreed with the values of a country, I wouldn't stay there because of hand-outs. |
I don't believe it is. The thing is they may well be thinking on a different time scale to you. While a group as a whole may have similar final objectives. The method and time scale which they use to achieve these things may well be different. The troubles in NI demonstrated exactly this. There were violent types and wait them out types.
| Quote: | So whiteys are only successful because of racism? |
I'm saying that the major white migration (Europe to USA) is not a good example. This is because one group was favoured above that of all others. This wasn't imagined it was actually enshrined in the law and despite various incremental laws (that sometimes made it worse) there wasn't a level playing field until Lydon B Johnson.
| Quote: | That's funny because at school there were trips for Afro-Caribbean kids only, award ceremonies for Afro-Caribbean kids only, |
Never saw any of that myself. The most visible form of discrimination was that the (mostly) Pakistani children at school didn't have to do P.E during Eid. School due to perhaps its cheapness seemed to have a sadistic affection for cross country running leaving everybody with stitches.
| Quote: | funding for businesses for Afro-Caribbean's only, |
Depends if it's private or government. If it's private then what's the problem? East Asians tend to loan each other money when they are in a position to do so. They don't expect the money back. Merely that once you are in a position to give yourself then you will give no questions asked. One person reduces their consumption to benefit the whole.
| Quote: | What does that tell you about human beings? |
That we're fallible as a species.
| Quote: | If the UK was majority black, majority Asian, majority Chinese would things be any different? |
Can't say. All I can say is that there is a need to think in the longer term rather than short term profits.
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| Itchy wrote: | I don't believe it is. The thing is they may well be thinking on a different time scale to you. |
Yes, that eventually they'll have their own Islamic state. 'They' were well on the way with Tower Hamlets.
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I'm saying that the major white migration (Europe to USA) is not a good example. This is because one group was favoured above that of all others. This wasn't imagined it was actually enshrined in the law and despite various incremental laws (that sometimes made it worse) there wasn't a level playing field until Lydon B Johnson. |
Australia then? Immigrants who built a successful nation, and are considered racist for wanting to protect and maintain what they have.
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Never saw any of that myself. The most visible form of discrimination was that the (mostly) Pakistani children at school didn't have to do P.E during Eid. School due to perhaps its cheapness seemed to have a sadistic affection for cross country running leaving everybody with stitches. |
| Quote: | Depends if it's private or government. If it's private then what's the problem? East Asians tend to loan each other money when they are in a position to do so. They don't expect the money back. Merely that once you are in a position to give yourself then you will give no questions asked. One person reduces their consumption to benefit the whole. |
I assume you didn't grow up/go to school in a black area? It's an example of how things are exactly the same when the roles are reversed. Equality's a fantasy. It was government money BTW.
| Quote: | That we're fallible as a species. |
| Quote: | Can't say. All I can say is that there is a need to think in the longer term rather than short term profits. |
Yes you can say, you look at those countries as I pointed out. It shows that humans aren't bothered about equality and fairness, they're bothered about being on top (that's human nature). |
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| Itchy wrote: | If your willing to conquer then it's only natural you be conquered back. |
If you're willing to conquer others, it's less likely that you'll be conquered back.
As you just pointed out, history is replete with examples of cultures who decided they ain't gonna study war no more, welcomed visitors with open arms, and then ended up in reservations, or on the dinner table.
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