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PostPosted: 11:11 - 18 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
I can understand how anyone in a reasonably well paid secure job would want to stay in the EU. After all why upset the applecart where you may have something to lose. Someone like me though, badly paid, service sector and job value reduced by cheap EU labour. F'all to lose.
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PostPosted: 11:20 - 18 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
MCN wrote:
I'm tired of the leavers and the remainers bickering.

That is my point.


You've been on BCF how long? Shocked
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 18 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Riejufixing wrote:
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
You've never understood May's "deal."

So argue about it, from an informed start. You say I've never understood it, with the clear implication that I'm wrong, so you must know exactly what you're talking about, unless you're a fool.

So, come on, let's 'ave yer! Why am I wrong?
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 18 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
mpd72 wrote:
All this empire bollocks.... The EU are 100 years too late.

We, Great Britain, built the greatest empire of all time, much of which enriched the countries we included with our technology and world order. As we progressed as a nation, we had the humility to realise that empires are not the future and nations should have their own self rule and control.

We turned the vast majority of our own empire back into their own nations and not the EU is trying to lecture us on how we should be a part of and are actually physically trying to force us, to be a vassal state in their empire.

Anyone who can't see he problem here should not reproduce and further their genes.


I think there are a few fuzzie-wuzzies out there who may disagree with you jingoistic view of world history, old chap....
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 18 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Diggs wrote:

I don't claim to own a tardis, but I strongly suspect nobody else on here does either.....


That, my friend, is where you're wrong:

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PostPosted: 12:05 - 18 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ribenapigeon wrote:
I can understand how anyone in a reasonably well paid secure job would want to stay in the EU. After all why upset the applecart where you may have something to lose. Someone like me though, badly paid, service sector and job value reduced by cheap EU labour. F'all to lose.


And the trend of wealth migrating to the top and the gap between wealthy and poor growing hasn't changed any, so it's likely more and more will be in your position. Good reason for the EU to ditch democracy eh?
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 18 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
chickenstrip wrote:


And the trend of wealth migrating to the top and the gap between wealthy and poor growing hasn't changed any, so it's likely more and more will be in your position. Good reason for the EU to ditch democracy eh?


The middle classes are politically complacent to the same extent the service classes are politically dispondent. It all works well for the powerful rich minority.
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 18 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ribenapigeon wrote:


The middle classes are politically complacent to the same extent the service classes are politically dispondent. It all works well for the powerful rich minority.


But my prediction, and I'm not alone in this if you follow the AI debate, is that the middle classes are in for a rude awakening in the not-too-distant future. Theirs are the next jobs in line for replacement by automation. So if you want to run a technocracy such as the EU, you need to make sure these people don't have a political voice so that they can't vote you out of office when they start to suffer. And judging by the numbers already disenfranchised, or economically squeezed half to death across Europe, it won't need that many more added to their numbers.
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 18 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
chickenstrip wrote:
Diggs wrote:

I don't claim to own a tardis, but I strongly suspect nobody else on here does either.....


That, my friend, is where you're wrong:

https://i.postimg.cc/zv7bhyr9/more-one-tardis-papercraft-via-papermau-002.jpg

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PostPosted: 12:35 - 18 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
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MCN, thank you for your astoundingly insightful contributions to the debate Laughing


Chickenstrip mate.
PM a moderator ASAP.
It looks as though your account has been hacked into by MDF 4x2.
Shocked

Very Happy

PS

So insight is the solution?

Hmmmm? I'll rain check the fuck out of that decision making policy.

Almost 5 years of insight and debate has brought us as far along the road as we were 5 years ago.

Make me laff please. Question Praying
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 18 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
mpd72 wrote:
Diggs wrote:


I think there are a few fuzzie-wuzzies out there who may disagree with you jingoistic view of world history, old chap....


Such as India? Zimbabwe maybe?
How has Zimbabwe fared since independence?


FFS man.
At least have the decency to pick a better example. 🤣

OK maybe independence is not such a success after all.
It's not as easy to survive in the ocean when you're not a part of a shoal. Unless you are very powerful, extremely quick
Or have big fuck-off teeth.
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 18 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Hmmmm? I'll rain check the fuck out of that decision making policy.


You live in Scotland. Your whole life is a rain check Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 18 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
mpd72 wrote:
https://pics.me.me/410-turdis-doctor-poo-22045552.png


I had to rename it after I went to look at the future of the EU, and landed in a continent of shit Wink Laughing
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mpd72 wrote:

And when the EU wants to go to war with Russia, you'll be OK with your kids being conscripted too?


UK government will be straight in at the front in any war the EU ends up in, whether in aggression or defence. Our leaders never want to miss out on such fun.

Plus it'll probably part of the new UK-EU trade deal Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:37 - 18 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
chickenstrip wrote:
MCN wrote:


Hmmmm? I'll rain check the fuck out of that decision making policy.


You live in Scotland. Your whole life is a rain check Laughing


Aye... well... but.... anyway...

Fuck aff yoo. 🤣🤣🤣
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 18 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
The way I see it is that if we are successful in Brexit, other EU nations will follow suit, and it will be much easier for them.
Either way we're in for a spanking Sad
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 18 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Regarding the backstop never has the phrase:

"Well sir, if I were you, I wouldn’t start from here."

...been more apposite!
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 18 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
mpd72 wrote:
Farage pretty much nailed it in the short time they allowed him to speak today.

It's difficult to argue against his point.

https://youtu.be/gNlfJcBYCHw

Luckily all the MEPs seem to have been busy doing democratic things elsewhere, just a few Brexit Party people there running things Laughing .
How much do they get paid again.
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MCN wrote:
Try and not come across as preposterous with your sweeping statements. Thumbs Up

Rated "Insightful." Wink
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 18 Sep 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Riejufixing wrote:
So argue about it, from an informed start. You say I've never understood it, with the clear implication that I'm wrong, so you must know exactly what you're talking about, unless you're a fool.

So, come on, let's 'ave yer! Why am I wrong?

Easy, Tiger. It was addressed way back, and mpd72 has just made the same points about May's Deal not being "Leave" at all. I'm surprised you've raised it again.
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