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PostPosted: 15:02 - 02 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is 476 a flat out troll merchant, or is it Val?


Not sure but deffo a common or garden Remain saddo. He's posting about shitty touring bikes in another thread, boring cunt.


Steady now, at least that is Bike Chat. Surely to be encouraged?
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 02 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Steady now, at least that is Bike Chat. Surely to be encouraged?


Does prove my point though that most remainers are dull as wood.
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 04 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Rob you sound like you live in 45 degrees land?

Shattering hedgerows right across farmland (not against roads/paths at all) is rife here. Always done, with the exception of one farm, in Autumn on hedgerows specifically planted as 'roadways and food stores for wildlife' - hedgerows paid for by grants etc. Full of various species of plant and a complete mix of foodstuffs for all wildlife. Just about every single one obliterated down to hard wood in Autumn..

Land is flat here - silts do not drain into streams. Why do they put edges on fields? The farmer loses money by doing so.

The pond? I was involved with its construction - I put the concrete overflow in. This isn't some sh*te story from a farmer. I know of the costings.


Where are these grants for hedgerows that have been in the ground for decades? The RPA literally works out how much hedging you have to take it away from the acres on the amount of SFP you get paid, as it's not croppable land.

You might know the costings, it's easy to find out, but where the money comes from is a different matter, i'd like to see evidence that the tax payer, paid for said pond and for what reason, whats said farmer/farm called? i can soon look it up online

i'm a farmer that knows these regs as part of the job, so do go on.
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PostPosted: 02:06 - 05 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a thought. Maybe we'll look back at Brexiteers in the same way we do with Suffragettes and Chartists: the wresting of power from the bloated and arrogant elite and redistributing it back to the people Thinking
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PostPosted: 02:23 - 05 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here's a thought. Maybe we'll look back at Brexiteers in the same way we do with Suffragettes and Chartists: the wresting of power from the bloated and arrogant elite and redistributing it back to the people Thinking


That suggests that Brexiteers are all socialists. I don't think that at all. Brexit for me wasn't some kind of neo-Marxist revolution. For me, it was about taking back control of our own country, because I simply don't like the direction and philosophy of the EU. True, there are things I don't like about capitalism, but I wouldn't suggest complete abandonment of it.
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PostPosted: 10:57 - 05 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here's a thought. Maybe we'll look back at Brexiteers in the same way we do with Suffragettes and Chartists: the wresting of power from the bloated and arrogant elite and redistributing it back to the people Thinking


This is what the ringleaders would like us to believe, but all the evidence contradicts that.

In fact power went to one party, one that has been taken over by a tiny billionaire-bankrolled clique, with diverse opinions representing some wider society purged away.

A "bloated and arrogant elite" donning masks of tribuni plebis to entrench themselves in power is an ancient scam, and we fell for it yet again 🤷‍♂️
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 05 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
Here's a thought. Maybe we'll look back at Brexiteers in the same way we do with Suffragettes and Chartists: the wresting of power from the bloated and arrogant elite and redistributing it back to the people Thinking


Happy to be proved wrong, but, I very much doubt it. Probably be remembered in the same way the execs at Decca are for rejecting the Beatles Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 05 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A “bloated and arrogant elite” donning masks of tribuni plebis to entrench themselves in power is an ancient scam, and we fell for it yet again.

1973, or 2016?
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 05 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are we there yet! Sleeping Sleeping
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 05 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
cdlxxvi wrote:
A “bloated and arrogant elite” donning masks of tribuni plebis to entrench themselves in power is an ancient scam, and we fell for it yet again.

1973, or 2016?


1973 had no populist angle to it. It was a pragmatic choice; we got what it said on the box: all the benefits of living in a union with economy and size an order of magnitude greater than what we can muster on our own.
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 05 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1973 had no populist angle to it. It was a pragmatic choice; we got what it said on the box: all the benefits of living in a union with economy and size an order of magnitude greater than what we can muster on our own.


Oh we got a lot more than that, a lot lot more Sad

"Hey, Mr. Satan? Can I become rich and successful?"

Sure, just sign here...

Kudos for complete misinterpreting my statement to pivot towards the agenda you're paid to promote Wink

I'll spell it out: the populous (or a section thereof) said "no! you there in your ivory towers, you won't come down to Earth and dare with us, why should you make all the decisions for everyone?"
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 05 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Capitalism is meant to be a part of democracy, to serve us. It's not meant to dictate everything in our lives. If we let it do that, as the trend has been, we are lost. We might as well let the machines run everything and terminate the human race. I don't want to live in a world that is all about numbers.
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 05 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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cdlxxvi wrote:
greater than what we can muster on our own.

But you are not "we". You are "them".

I don't know why cdlxxvi has flamed me for that.

It's quite true. Judging by his past posts, he has no desire whatever for the UK to succeed outside the eu, and since he's like that, he certainly ain't one of us, and if he does not like the fact that we're out of the eu, and won't work for our success, he can take a running jump.
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 05 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course, we could have opted for the Dear Leaders of the EU. But who the fuck are they?! Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 05 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

cdlxxvi wrote:
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I'll spell it out: the populous (or a section thereof) said "no! you there in your ivory towers, you won't come down to Earth and dare with us, why should you make all the decisions for everyone?"


I understand your point. Incidentally, it is curiously similar to what assorted Dear Leaders' mouthpieces have been on about for decades - if I was the suspicious type, I'd think that someone put it in your head.

Anyway I merely invite you to consider:
* Did these towers in fact exist?
* Our own new Dear Leader; what is his dwelling made of? How tall is it?


TBH I used to believe it all went wrong with the Chartists but then it was pointed out to me they marched not to bring down the establishment but to join it. Same with the Suffragettes, the message was "we want to participate [in democracy]" It doesn't seem like they were asking for much, looking back on it, but at the time it would have been "who do these people think they are?!"

And now it's happened again. "The great and the good" have howled that the proles have got it all wrong - again - "half of them haven't even been to college, let alone university! How can they understand such complex issues..."

"Ivory Towers" is archaic - always a nice turn of phase though - but the contemporary might be "Echo Chamber" or "Twitter-sphere" and there's no better example of the failure of an Echo Chamber than the previous Parliament: "We shall treat the decision of the public [over Brexit] with the derision it deserves!" and then hurled themselves, lemming-like, over the cliff of principle. How very noble!

Boris may be a man of many words and few actions but remember who handed him the keys to No.10: the middle-class snobs who sneered at the working man and his real-world experience.
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PostPosted: 15:57 - 05 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

cdlxxvi wrote:
In fact power went to one party, one that has been taken over by a tiny billionaire-bankrolled clique, with diverse opinions representing some wider society purged away.


I agree with you. It's all labour's fault for being so shite!
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 05 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
cdlxxvi wrote:
A “bloated and arrogant elite” donning masks of tribuni plebis to entrench themselves in power is an ancient scam, and we fell for it yet again.

1973, or 2016?


cdlxxvi wrote:
1973 had no populist angle to it. It was a pragmatic choice; we got what it said on the box: all the benefits of living in a union with economy and size an order of magnitude greater than what we can muster on our own.

But it was a Tory government which took us into the EEC in 1973, and then opposition forced a referendum two years later on whether to stay in. I would think a good number of that "Yes" vote was similar to the rational wing of 2019's Remainers, i.e. we're there now, the sky hasn't fallen, let's just make the best of it. The "bloated and arrogant elite" had craftily got their way.
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 05 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On chartists, suffragettes and brexiteers


I wonder where the comparison even came from Laughing

Chartists and suffragettes had specific objectives. For example: franchise - a defined, measurable, verifiable goal. They campaigned, ultimately won, and where the person could not vote before, they now can.

Brexit is a completely different process: a "bloated and arrogant elite" fed us anti-EU slogans for years, and baited us with tales of power & prosperity we will have if we give them what they want.
Brexit isn't of course bringing any tangible wide advantage like suffrage; instead we get more slogans on how we conquered some enemy that was made up in the 1st place.
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 05 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

cdlxxvi wrote:
I wonder where the comparison even came from :lol

What, like people have wondered where your quotes have come from, and one or two decided you make them up?

"lol".
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 05 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

476 is the new Val, another bore screaming into the void....
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 05 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Brexit is a completely different process: a "bloated and arrogant elite" fed us anti-EU slogans for years, and baited us with tales of power & prosperity we will have if we give them what they want.
Brexit isn't of course bringing any tangible wide advantage like suffrage; instead we get more slogans on how we conquered some enemy that was made up in the 1st place.


And the EU didn't treat us like a red-headed step-child for years and years? An economic union was what people voted in the '70s not a Federal Europe run by unelected bureaucrats.

So we've been fed lies for years to convince us of the Euro-evil? And yet almost everyone in the MSM - to a man (I can't desexualise that turn of phrase so tough titty) - wailed before, during and after about how terrible leaving the EU would be. Brexiteers were openly branded as racists, many kittens died...

Let's accept, for the moment, that 52% of the populous were 100% manipulated into voting for Brexit. What conclusions can we draw?

1) That the Remoaners weren't very good at countering such lies
2) That despite > 3 years of wailing of how bad things would be still the populous were unmoved. Remember: every Remoaner ejected from the Tory party failed to get elected. Not. A. Single. One. That's how unmoved the electorate were by the arguments.

Time to admit failure. The Remoaners failed to swing the Brexit vote. They failed to subvert Democracy while in Parliament. A good chunk got their arses handed to them in the election. Failure, failure, failure... what to do?

I know, let's blame the electorate for "wrong-think" surely with more "education" they'd see the error of their ways?
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 05 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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476 is the new Val, another bore screaming into the void....


I think it's the strangest thing. It's like people keep telling you your flies are undone, so you know, but you just keep walking around like it, like you think it's normal and everyone else should be walking round like that too. You'd think by now he'd have got the message. Hell, maybe he actually thinks somebody cares what he thinks about Brexit.
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PostPosted: 01:02 - 06 Mar 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Boris may be a man of many words and few actions but remember who handed him the keys to No.10: the middle-class snobs who sneered at the working man and his real-world experience.


Nope they didn't, Jermeny Corbyn, Dianne Abbot, John McDonnell and the influence of the momentum movement gave Boris the keys
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