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PostPosted: 11:04 - 24 Dec 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tracey Suntan-King wrote:
Sources in Belgium now saying that after one of the EU negotiators started humming “Silent Night”, all sides joined in. Barnier then suggested a game of football. Some negotiators now swapping chocolate and cigarettes. Top brass furious but It’s just too Christmassy to stop.



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Remember the football match?

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Remember it?! How could I forget it?! I was never offside; I could not BELIEVE that decision!
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 24 Dec 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should shut Val up for a bit.
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 24 Dec 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Should shut Val up for a bit.


Only if they stop paying him.

On the one hand:

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Taoiseach (Irish Prime Minister) Micheál Martin said he believed the deal was "a good compromise and a balanced outcome".


That doesn't sound good (for us) but then:

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Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon's reaction: "Before the spin starts, it’s worth remembering that Brexit is happening against Scotland’s will.

"And there is no deal that will ever make up for what Brexit takes away from us. It’s time to chart our own future as an independent, European nation."


So that cheered me up!

The meat of it though is fishing has been kicked down the road for another 5 years Neutral
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 24 Dec 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slighly off-topic but I watched the No.10 broadcast on Twitter, but put the telly on in the background with the sound off. Now I know the BBC isn't the government's mouthpiece but you'd think the nation's broadcaster would have interrupted their programming for this momentous announcement of a deal. Nope!

Boris apologised for interrupting Disney's Cars 3 and I'm not sure if he believed that was the case or whether it was a sly dig at auntie.

The broadcast ended and coincidentally it was time for the news, where we heard more from Laura Kuenssberg than we did from the Prime Minister!

In amongst the usual negative commentary they found time to show the Downing Street cat catching a pigeon this morning and then letting it slip away. Presumably a metaphor.
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 24 Dec 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Val wrote:
Polarbear wrote:
Should shut Val up for a bit.


You people sound exactly like 80s USSR communists now.

How do I know? I literally was living 30 years under communist dictature and everybody were waiting for the new bright future to come.

The future was not coming because of the traitors not beleiving in it. Like me Laughing

Fast forward 30 years later - I am in the UK and still I am the traitor and to blame for the new future that will never come Laughing Laughing Laughing

I pitty you people and your Brexit cult. Just wait 50 to a 100 years max and all will be great Laughing

Whilst the reality is you have fcuked up your own country because you hate foreigners like me.

Congrats for the Brexit "deal". Yeah...The first deal in history that limits trade and make the trade much worst.

The irony - in the name of freedom the UK destroyed its own freedom of movement and left the biggest free trade[Single]Market...created by the UK itself.


Hurry up and fuck off then you annoying cunt.
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 24 Dec 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Val wrote:
Whilst the reality is you have fcuked up your own country because you hate foreigners like me

Anybody think he's right? People hate foreigners like him? I'd say that statement was very wide of the mark, and that people don't hate foreingers generally.
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 24 Dec 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Him and Guy Verhofstadt Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 24 Dec 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the plus side:
Sturgeon is unhappy Dance!
Nigel Farage seems reasonably happy Shocked
Femi is unhappy Dance!

On the worrying side:
Dominic Grieve is happy Shocked

Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 24 Dec 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually Sturgeon is probably secretly happy there was something to gripe about to keep the dream of independence alive. One fifth of Scottish seed potato exports at risk, or at least not specifically factored into this deal. I'm not sure why.

Edit: once we've got all the fish we'll need more chips anyway.
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PostPosted: 22:20 - 24 Dec 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:


Edit: once we've got all the fish we'll need more chips anyway.
Very Happy


My local Tesco have sussed this already; giving away free bags of potatoes Laughing
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PostPosted: 04:35 - 25 Dec 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Val wrote:
Polarbear wrote:
Should shut Val up for a bit.


You people sound exactly like 80s USSR communists now.

How do I know? I literally was living 30 years under communist dictature and everybody were waiting for the new bright future to come.

The future was not coming because of the traitors not beleiving in it. Like me Laughing

Fast forward 30 years later - I am in the UK and still I am the traitor and to blame for the new future that will never come Laughing Laughing Laughing

I pitty you people and your Brexit cult. Just wait 50 to a 100 years max and all will be great Laughing

Whilst the reality is you have fcuked up your own country because you hate foreigners like me.

Congrats for the Brexit "deal". Yeah...The first deal in history that limits trade and make the trade much worst.

The irony - in the name of freedom the UK destroyed its own freedom of movement and left the biggest free trade[Single]Market...created by the UK itself.


Knickers (English language, Term used to indicate something/someone is Bullshite.)

Most Proletariat of the Former Union of Soviet Socialist Republic (CCCP ) still believe that communism is better than their current sham democratic existence.
They most probably see the ex-party leaders (Bastirts) profiting from their positions whilst the working man's status has remained the same.

So maybe in another thousand years the electorate/peasant people of the former USSR can realise their dreams.
If the current regime in place doesn't quash dreaming.

As a manufacturing base the Trade Sanctions don't affect their production. They do not have quality or efficacy in mind when their shit is on the draught table let alone on the market.
No fucker would buy their shite.
Last Russian item I purchased managed to grind 6kg of beef steak before catastrophically shitting itsel (it was burgers/spagbol day)
British Manufacturing is still world class.
Rooshian Shit has always been shit. (But Guilded Shit)
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PostPosted: 16:49 - 04 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if EU citizens agree with the ever closer ties with China the EU seem to be pursuing?
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 04 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Early days, reasons 'n' all that, but still.... ahahahaha!

BBC ABANDONS LIVE BREXIT BLOG FOR LACK OF BAD NEWS
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BBC correspondent Simon Jones has been in Dover this morning.

09:40 - Today is set to be the first real test of the new system post-Brexit.

...things have been running fairly smoothly.

So far, so good is the message we are getting.

10:00 - Goodbye
That's where we will leave our coverage of the first working day after post-Brexit rules came into force. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 00:49 - 05 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
Early days, reasons 'n' all that, but still.... ahahahaha!

BBC ABANDONS LIVE BREXIT BLOG FOR LACK OF BAD NEWS
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BBC correspondent Simon Jones has been in Dover this morning.

09:40 - Today is set to be the first real test of the new system post-Brexit.

...things have been running fairly smoothly.

So far, so good is the message we are getting.

10:00 - Goodbye
That's where we will leave our coverage of the first working day after post-Brexit rules came into force. Crying or Very sad


BBC Radio Kent this morning were trying very hard, but everyone they spoke to seemed to be saying it was going OK.

Apparently, 200 trucks went through on Jan 1 and 2 were turned away, but they didn't know if that was because of incorrect paperwork, or lack of a negative COVID test on the part of the driver.

So we are out of the EU, but the sky hasn't fallen in and the world hasn't stopped turning.

Funny that Wink
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PostPosted: 09:28 - 05 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

200 trucks seems low. Maybe that's through one gate?

BBC wrote:
"Ferry company DFDS told me that in first two days of this year, 13,000 lorries ran through the port - that was half the number we saw in the same period last year.

"On a busy day you can get 10,000 lorries passing through a port.

"As traffic begins to increase in the coming weeks that is when we could see problems."


That's still enough traffic to reveal any significant problems.
Odd that they put their own correspondent's words in quotes.
The live blog has not resumed this morning.
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 06 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell you what though guys, the VAT arrangements UK government have come up with are TOTAL clusterfuck.

Basically if you are buying for stuff from the EU valued at under £135, they expect the SELLER to register with HMRC (for a fee!) then add the VAT at source and pay it to the UK government.

Unsurprisingly to me, many of them have are now refusing to sell low value goods to the UK. Which is frankly, what I would do too. If i had a business, I certainly wouldn't pay the German government for the privelage of collecting tax on their behalf, never mind the admin nightmare it would entail.

I've also heard of a few cases of total misunderstanding where the EU company is adding the UK VAT to the local VAT instead of zero rating it. (So in Germany where VAT is 19%, goods that cost £10 +VAT would normally be sold at £11.90 locally, they should now be charged at £12 in the UK because we have 20% VAT but they are actually being sold at £14.28, charging VAT on the VAT).

It's easier for me to buy stuff from India than the EU now because I just have to go online when the goods hit the UK and pay the VAT and any applicable duty.

I'd imagine online sales platforms like ebay will take up the admin for this themselves but for direct sales of low value goods from the EU, you can probably forget it for the time being.
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 06 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw the VAT thing, it's very strange.

stinkwheel wrote:
but for direct sales of low value goods from the EU, you can probably forget it for the time being.


I reckon it'll get sorted out. We need buyers and sellers to respond to the new regime and push back on the sticking points to find a good solution. The political negotiations were delaying a new normal. Bring it on.
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PostPosted: 01:09 - 07 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't I mention this in a thread back in October...

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=331566
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 07 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also mentioned it - https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=4730553#4730553 - with snippet from the Times showing that foreign exporters to UK would need to register with HMRC.

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You can expect a lot less choice of where to buy stuff from after 1st January. Brexit dividend.


None of this is a surprise.
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PostPosted: 00:03 - 10 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems that the European Parliament is not happy with the new China deal negotiated by the EU Commission. I find myself for once agreeing with Mr. Verhofstadt on something! Shocked

And no, I don't now want us back in the EU Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 11 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

from (not here) wrote:

2019 Remainers: BREXIT WILL GROUND FLIGHTS, CAUSE SUPER STIS, MEGA RECESSIONS, PUNISHMENT BUDGET, INCREASE PROBABILITY OF ASTEROID COLLISIONS (not kidding), POUND STERLING PARITY WITH EURO, FOOD SHORTAGES, INSULIN SHORTAGES.....

2021 Remainers: Two substitutions and some small cauliflowers


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PostPosted: 19:28 - 11 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

The BBC was running a story a few days ago focussing on the absence of M&S Percy Pig sweets in NI at the moment, thanks to Brexit. Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 11 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
The BBC was running a story a few days ago focussing on the absence of M&S Percy Pig sweets in NI at the moment, thanks to Brexit. Laughing


First day back today (I took an extra week off) and the first import job I have to do - Holland to Aberdeen. Other than customs costs, and passing on supplier commercial invoice and our paperwork to haulier that is collecting, no real change. Charges are passed on to customer. Easy enough.

The strange thing is the 'double duty' if you will - we have the UK and Ireland territory, but for something coming in from Europe, where we would hold it on the shelf as stock, we then pay again to snoop it from us to Eire, which is our territory. Sure there will be ways around this in time.

Quelle surprise at the French computer systems not being ready Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 13 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another Brexit bonus

French Officials wrote:
The EU’s Cross-Border Enforcement Directive no longer applies, French officials have said, so British-registered vehicles will no longer be sent fines for offences detected by roadside cameras
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