Brexit: What do you think will happen?

[Rob Fzs]

[Rob Fzs]

[Rogerborg]

Oh, incidentally, more news about the state of the UK economy compared to EUropia.

3x as many new businesses started in UKia last year than in France, Germany, Italy, Japan "despite Brexit".
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[Itchy]

[Diggs]

Clearly not...

What chance did that particular comic (a piece of guesswork, fearmongering and kidology) have against brightly-coloured posters on the side of buses plus gents like Boris and Nigel, in whom millions placed their trust? Humans are simple creatures and history shows that we like to follow 'charismatic' leaders who promise a better way of life.

I'm not disputing that more people voted to leave than voted to stay, and that the Government has a mandate to ensure that takes place. What I do dispute however is the assertion made that voters knew the implications at the time. It is only now that the implications are being 'created' by the EU. If we find ourselves about to enter an era that is significantly worse that the status quo, then it is the responsibility of Parliament to consider our options.
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[Itchy]

[Rob Fzs]

[Itchy]

[Diggs]

Itchy, I understand the maths. What this doesn't take into account however is ownership and distance from market. It also doesn't take into account rising flood contours and climate change. Nor does it take into account the inability of people to think ahead and to see growing one's own food as a more viable option than theft.

The only way we will have enough land to feed our population is if ownership passes to the State, and in this country that would be a strictly post-apocalypse scenario!!! Can you imagine the landowning classes giving anything to the State freely?
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[Rob Fzs]

[Rob Fzs]

[Rob Fzs]

[Itchy]

[Diggs]

I'm not an economist, but I can't see how the average person in this country if given even 0.1ha of land could grow enough food to feed themselves. Our grandfather's generation probably could have done if the land was close enough to people's houses, but we have lost those skills, and most arable land isn't.

To achieve it we would need collectivist farms with workers living in situ. That requires fundamental social reform, the like of which was tried and subsequently failed in Russia.

No, what will happen is change forced by rising transport costs, which will lead to a drastic reduction in population through starvation. Back to a subsistence economy for the majority of those who survive.

Like I say, membership or not of the EU will become an irrelevance.
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[ScaredyCat]

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[Itchy]

[Rogerborg]

[Diggs]

MPD - yes, I probably do lead a sheltered life. I apologise to you for my lack of knowledge of urban dictionary terms. I have looked it up however, and that definition doesn't fit me.... Extremist Liberal and thinking I am unique, I am not. If you read what I have written you will understand my argument that my view is probably shared by most of the electorate...
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[panrider_uk]

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[Diggs]

MDP given that our (rapidly growing) population will have to adjust to reduced food imports and that we haven't the ability to grow enough of our own, how do you see the situation resolving itself? I am genuinely interested to hear your view.

You keep on using this term 'snowflake'. Why is somebody who's views are shared with almost half of the people who voted 'remain' and probably more than half the population at this present time, an extreme liberal who thinks of himself as 'unique'? Again, a reasoned answer would be interesting to read.
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[Rogerborg]

We'll use marginal land to grow hardier grains, like barley and oats.

Cows will need to give way to upland sheep farming.

We'll make more efficient use of their carcasses.

Haggis: the food of the future.
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