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Posted: 15:16 - 15 Nov 2018 Post subject: |
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Sorry to go back to an earlier post (I'm not ):
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I understand that argument. I am not sure however if the average voter (and I include us in this) knows which businesses back each Party, because we don't take the time to find out. |
And perhaps we should, because political parties today are merely a front for those who really tell us how to behave - keep us in our place (or abandon us if we don't tow the line).
Quote: | It used to be simple - a vote for Labour was a vote for Union power, whereas a vote for Conservatives was a vote for big industry and all that entails. Socialism versus neo-classical economics. |
Except times have changed. Now, the field has been changed by globalisation. Whilst Labour may still be heavily influenced by the unions, they have already lost the battle, except they don't know it yet. If they come to power, they're in for a rude awakening. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Got to be careful here because I could go all Anarchist, which belies my position as a self-employed father of three with a mortgage and dog to support... ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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How can that be in our best interests? The whole of Parliament bar the PM and Nicky Morgan spoke out against the 'shit deal' today, and other than a couple of the more outspoken Conservatives, I can't remember anybody saying 'no deal' would be a good thing for us.
Like somebody said previously, we could be forgiven for thinking that this has been orchestrated to ensure another vote on the principle of staying or leaving... ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Posted: 16:24 - 15 Nov 2018 Post subject: |
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Diggs wrote: | How can that be in our best interests? The whole of Parliament bar the PM and Nicky Morgan spoke out against the 'shit deal' today, and other than a couple of the more outspoken Conservatives, I can't remember anybody saying 'no deal' would be a good thing for us.
Like somebody said previously, we could be forgiven for thinking that this has been orchestrated to ensure another vote on the principle of staying or leaving... |
There are plenty of people outside of your Remainer circle, who think No Deal is the best option, from voters, to politicians, to businessmen and women. It was clear all along that the EU couldn't be seen to let us have a fair deal or Italy, Hungary and many others would have followed suit.
This was obvious from the start. The part which annoys me is that May went into negotiations on the back foot deliberately. If she'd have said, "look, we want this and this, if you can make that work in exchange for x and x, we have a deal. If not, we'll setup and walk out with no deal".
They never planned for no deal, much like they never planned to lose the original vote. It stinks of a wriggle out.
If she doesn't resign now, it's fucked. ____________________ TZR250 2MA road, TZR250 1KT road, TZR250 2MA race, TDR250, YZF-750R Boost colours.
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Yup. At this stage, no deal please. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Thank you for saying that Hawkeye. That makes me feel better. ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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I thought they did when Boris decided not to stand. My mistake freely admitted! ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Diggs wrote: | Thank you for saying that Hawkeye. That makes me feel better. |
And after all, that's what we're all here for - to make you feel better ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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That's why I come here, because nobody else does. ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Perhaps Val's Brexit thread might be more your thing? You do share the same values. That will surely make you feel better? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Tell me more about this naked golf. |
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I like this thread, thank you. It gives me the opportunity to read views that differ from mine without the 'copy and paste' nonsense so evident in others.
Now, pass me that length of rope and stool... ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Posted: 20:08 - 15 Nov 2018 Post subject: |
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Diggs wrote: | I like this thread, thank you. It gives me the opportunity to read views that differ from mine without the 'copy and paste' nonsense so evident in others. |
I applaud your choice sir.
Quote: | Now, pass me that length of rope and stool... |
You're a Remainer, right? Here, let me help you tie the knot ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Sadly this makes a second referendum more likely (I didn't think it would happen) because the only way out for Parliament is a, "We've changed our minds," vote from the electorate (or at least those who bother to vote). A "Just get on with it!" Leave majority would be a classic British though. |
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If we were a democracy, there would be no need for a second referendum. But I worry that we're about to find out that a democracy is one thing we're not.
If Remain won a second referendum, I'd be looking forward to the third one though ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 134 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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