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Posted: 19:17 - 10 Jan 2019 Post subject: |
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Every news network (still) seems to be saying something different, but apparently the EU's perspective on this is that although we can revoke article 50 at anytime, extending it would require a good reason like a general election.
I think hope even the staunchest remainer can see how revoking article 50 would be a bad thing*, and cause a major backlash, but as I said before it's mainly a question of how they fudge the 'democracy' angle.
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M.C wrote: | Every news network (still) seems to be saying something different, but apparently the EU's perspective on this is that although we can revoke article 50 at anytime, extending it would require a good reason like a general election.
I think hope even the staunchest remainer can see how revoking article 50 would be a bad thing*, and cause a major backlash, but as I said before it's mainly a question of how they fudge the 'democracy' angle.
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The EU can say what they want. Ultimately us leaving the EU has fuck all to do with them. Or at least it should in reality.
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Riejufixing wrote: | Well. I've just dropped a note through my MPs door saying about how so many people are clueless and don't even know what's happening, let alone understand any of it. Perhaps there'll be a "Brexit for Dummies Guide" on the government website. Shrug. Bit late now. |
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Confirmation that he's a delusional dickhead. Thank you. |
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Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: |
Confirmation that he's a delusional dickhead. Thank you. |
It was that speech I was referring to earlier, they showed a snippet on the news of him calling for a general election, and that he's threatening to call a vote of no-confidence presumably when her deal gets rejected. |
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M.C wrote: | Every news network (still) seems to be saying something different, but apparently the EU's perspective on this is that although we can revoke article 50 at anytime, extending it would require a good reason like a general election.
I think hope even the staunchest remainer can see how revoking article 50 would be a bad thing*, and cause a major backlash, but as I said before it's mainly a question of how they fudge the 'democracy' angle.
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That would be me. I'm staunchest remainer. Bear with me. There will be logic and facts.
Let's look at the facts:
1. UK is supposed to have Parliamentary democracy - means the only democratic way to decide anything is via Parliament.
2. Cameron decides to have a referendum on Brexit.
3. When terms and conditions of the referendum are discussed in Parliament the referendum is declared as advisory means there will be no strict provisions on the vote.
4. Advisory referendum decides to leave the EU. Based on criminal vote fraud. ANY other elections would have been declared as invalid. Not the referendum because it is advisory hence NOT a subject to strict provisions by law.
5. Instead of debating and deciding democratically in Parliament what are the consequences and what must be done, May decides to declare the same advisory referendum plus a lot of imaginary red lines and conditions invented personally by her as "the will of the people".
6. Some angry citizens give May to High Court blaming her for triggering A50 based on biggest electoral fraud in UK's history ever. The Judge decides the case has expired. The fucking biggest electoral fraud in UK's history has 3 months due date.
6. After 2 years of can kicking May present some fudge as a deal with EU.
7. Parliament literally laughs at the BS called a deal.
8. May tries to kick the can 1 month more.
The whole farce above is presented as "democracy".
Any sane person would have thought Parliament canceling the whole farce and revoking A50 is the best course of action.
Exactly what Swiss have done:
https://t.co/9Hq4aZdh6o
Apparently would be undemocratic to have working Parliamentary democracy and rule of law.
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I think Val's idea of democracy is that we ignore referendum results, in which case there isn't any point in ever holding one |
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Anyone seen the video doing the rounds of Channel 4's epic fail called "Bexit Inbetweeners"? Should bring a bit of humour to a dark subject.
In typical Remain propaganda style, Channel 4 and Snow try to create a show of young people bashing leaving the EU, but seem to have an audience of people who want to leave.
Quite funny seeing Snow desperate to push his agenda.
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Val can make the argument of it not being legally binding, he is accurate. You can and in fact do argue this is a technicality yet it doesn't falsify his claim.
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Do tell me the point of holding a referendum if you ignore the result then?
2.5 years on and it's the same tired arguments |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 5 years, 104 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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