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| cdlxxvi wrote: | | mpd72 CPT wrote: |
No I don't. I'd prefer us to have a trade surplus and so would the UK economy.
I only bring up the tariffs debate to debunk Roman Numeral Man, when he tries to pretend we'll suffer more than the EU with a massive trade deficit with them. Simple mathematical fact seemingly doesn't exist in Lefty World. |
Sir, let's for a moment entertain the extremely naive assumption that import & export levels will remain unchanged under a Somalia-style Brexit, and the extra 5bn will indeed by collected by HMRC.
Tariffs being taxes on imports, we will be taxed more heavily than the EU27 citizens. Are you trying to say that more taxes will make us better off? |
Miss, try thinking before typing please. The importer pays the import tariff, not the consumer. If they decide to try to pass this extra cost on to the consumer, the consumer will buy elsewhere, such as locally produced goods not affected by the tariffs.
I sincerely hope the addition of import levies lowers our trade deficit and gives UK production the much needed boost against falsely subsidised cheap EU imports.
The EU is milking us dry. We've sold off almost all of the family silver. Our main energy firms are French owned, transport infrastructure is mainly foreign owned. Hell, even the sodding National Lottery is owned by a Canadian teacher's pension scheme. The cupboards are nearly bare, we have nothing left to flog to keep buying all this sh1t from the EU. We need to stop importing way more than we export and need to start selling more than we buy because the coffers will soon be empty.
Try turning your crystal ball doom & gloom predictor range so it can make biased remoaner guesses more than 3 months into the future. 
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National lottery revenue goes on:
50% prizes
28% Good causes
12% Government
5% Retailers as commission [24]
4.5% Camelot for operating costs
0.5% Camelot for profit
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| Posted: 23:03 - 16 Feb 2019 Post subject: |
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| cdlxxvi wrote: | | mpd72 CPT wrote: | The importer pays the import tariff, not the consumer. |
And pray, my most wise sir, where do importers get their money?
| mpd72 CPT wrote: | the consumer will buy elsewhere, such as locally produced goods not affected by the tariffs.
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So you would force us to buy more expensive and inferior goods? Even assuming that they will be available in sufficient quantity, I'm not entirely convinced that we will be tremendously happy with switching from Spanish oranges to Great Brexitish onions. |
The importers need customers to survive, so must remain competitive.
Do you not understand basic business sense?
What do you do in real life? Public sector or student springs to mind.
You lefties really love a bit of self loathing and putting down your own country don’t you? What is it, still guilt over slave trade or are we going back to the crusades? We have some of the best inventors, scientists and engineers in the world. Wouldn’t it be nice to be able to keep them in the U.K. for once?
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| Im-a-Ridah wrote: | National lottery revenue goes on:
50% prizes
28% Good causes
12% Government
5% Retailers as commission [24]
4.5% Camelot for operating costs
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Half a percent of £7bn is £35M. Not bad work for selling bits of paper.
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Well I work for the UK company that supplies European kit to the UK market. What would you say is a reasonable profit margin Donk?
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I suppose this is another company who are lying as to the reasons they've gone titsup??
https://www.flybmi.com/en/
Because, brexit can't possibly have a detrimental effect to the economy & people lives !!
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| cdlxxvi wrote: | | mpd72 CPT wrote: |
It’s a buyers market. If the importers can’t compete, they lose out and a competitor steps up and takes the trade.
Public sector or student? You have no idea how business works. |
Sir, I implore you to continue your lecture: since you say that another importer will step in to replace the one who raised prices due to tariffs, we will never experience price rises due to tariffs. This is “how business works”, right? |
Miss, I love how you just make things up to suit your argument. I said nothing of the sort, the competitor may not be an importer, it could be a home produced product.
I've made the point about tariffs making home production more competitive, but as it doesn't suit your agenda, your usual selective memory loss is kicking in.
This is how business works. It's a buyers market unless the supplier has a monopoly, which is illegal unless for some odd reason, you're a water company in the UK. If the importer decides to try to pass on their tariff to the customer, they make themselves more expensive and will lost out to a competitor who stays cheaper. It;s not recket science.
So, as you have no idea how business works in the real world, are you a student or public sector? A bit like Corbyn, you have no experience or understanding of how market forces work in reality.
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| linuxyeti wrote: | @mpd
I suppose this is another company who are lying as to the reasons they've gone titsup??
https://www.flybmi.com/en/
Because, brexit can't possibly have a detrimental effect to the economy & people lives !! |
Oh yes, because FlyBMI only ever fly between EU cities, not to or from the UK. Do you ever question this propaganda, or because it suits your agenda, do yo leave your brain in neutral as you lap it up?
They're just bitter remaoners using it as an excuse. The entire airline industry is in the shit. Just to back up your propaganda, find me 1 route which FlyBMI ran which didn't involve taking off or landing in the UK, which is not going to be in the EU in a few weeks.
They fly to 25 locations, so show me which one of those is EU to EU without starting or finishing in the UK.
| Quote: | Flying from Aberdeen, Derry, Bristol, the East Midlands, Stansted and Newcastle in the UK, its planes travelled to destinations in the Czech Republic, Denmark, France, Germany, Italy, Norway, Poland and Sweden. |
Did you also skip past this bit, where the airline actually blamed the EU for it's failing? Come on, out of neutral and into first gear, then read...
| Quote: | "The airline has faced several difficulties, including recent spikes in fuel and carbon costs, the latter arising from the EU's recent decision to exclude UK airlines from full participation in the Emissions Trading Scheme |
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The BBC and the rest are probably sitting on some really big scare stories for closer to no deal. If it were news of course they would release them now, but its propaganda so they will release it when the time is politically right for them |
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| mpd72 CPT wrote: | | cdlxxvi wrote: |
Sir, I implore you to continue your lecture: since you say that another importer will step in to replace the one who raised prices due to tariffs, we will never experience price rises due to tariffs. This is “how business works”, right? |
Miss, I love how you just make things up to suit your argument. I said nothing of the sort, the competitor may not be an importer, it could be a home produced product.
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So again, in your business expert’s view, is it not a problem that tariffs will force us to buy domestic product that is unavailable, inferior, dearer, or bit of all? (Because otherwise we would be buying it already instead of importing) |
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