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Did someone just say something? No? Ok, Zzzzzzz. |
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That's such a lazy piece of journalism, there's more holes in those arguments than a big slice of Emmental, you know, Swiss cheese.
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It would have been nice if you actually say what are these mythical arguments against the fact that EU2016 was literally a lie on the ballot?
Exactly as a vote for removing all taxes: No means taxation system stays - real option. Yes is new fantasy world without taxes.
The same was with EU2016 referendum. Stay was real option.
Leave was literally a fantasy NOT based on actual Leave deal terms.
Leave was anything you want it to be.
What do YOU want to be the UK-EU Leave deal? Well I have got news for you - whatever you want it was not on the ballot.
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Ste wrote: | cdlxxvi wrote: | Quite the contrary. We voted on things staying as they were, well known to us |
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But that's the thing about the EU. It isn't staying as it is. Care to predict where it's going? Oh, trade, blah, blah, blah. What about the rest? What about the unrest? The disconnect? The unfairness? The utopian dream that forgot about the people? It isn't just here in the UK, or there wouldn't be all the yellow vest stuff, the voting trends in Italy, even Merkel's party weakened, and so on. Can it all just be bottled up? Isolated? Who's really living in denial here? Who are the selfish ones, the uncaring ones?
Why do Remainers refuse to see the wider picture? And the EU? Can't they see that their attitudes are making things worse?
I've said it before: Brexit is just a reaction. The things that caused it are not being addressed, by anyone, here or in Brussels. Expect more of the same while that's the case, and remember, an ostrich with it's head in the sand can still be killed or maimed. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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chickenstrip wrote: |
But that's the thing about the EU. It isn't staying as it is. Care to predict where it's going? Oh, trade, blah, blah, blah. What about the rest? What about the unrest? The disconnect? The unfairness? The utopian dream that forgot about the people? It isn't just here in the UK, or there wouldn't be all the yellow vest stuff, the voting trends in Italy, even Merkel's party weakened, and so on. Can it all just be bottled up? Isolated? Who's really living in denial here? Who are the selfish ones, the uncaring ones?
Why do Remainers refuse to see the wider picture? And the EU? Can't they see that their attitudes are making things worse?
I've said it before: Brexit is just a reaction. The things that caused it are not being addressed, by anyone, here or in Brussels. Expect more of the same while that's the case, and remember, an ostrich with it's head in the sand can still be killed or maimed. |
Totally agree.
The elite and the well off are marching on on the backs of the untermensch.
It was OK when they threw enough scraps to keep them quiet but the scraps are being shared amongst more and more plebs. Decent jobs for the relatively uneducated are gone.
There are few apprenticeships and the bosses can cherry pick as there are so many applicant.
Mass employment industries like ship and car building have either gone or become mainly automated.
It's all well and good saying we need immigrants to fund pensions, NHS and the like but if the jobs aren't there it just means more fighting for the same jobs, lower wages and more animosity.
So we have Trump, Brexit, Yellow vests, Italy etc. etc. and it's going to get worse. How much worse, I don't know but there has to be a radical change before the change is forced upon countries by violence.
In a society driven by money you have to supply enough to the workers to keep them relatively happy especially while you denigrate people on the dole as scroungers yet more and more will be taking benefits because there are only so many jobs available. ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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That sounds uncannily like Socialism in all but name. Start calling it that however and you'll really confuse a proletariat who have been educated to believe that Socialism is fundamentally flawed. ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Diggs wrote: | That sounds uncannily like Socialism in all but name. Start calling it that however and you'll really confuse a proletariat who have been educated to believe that Socialism is fundamentally flawed. |
Diggs, you posted that just before I hit the post button for this. Uncanny indeed:
What will happen is we'll have a Soviet style revolution in western Europe, while our masters sit there scratching their heads and asking themselves, "what went wrong?" Assuming any of them survive, of course.
Also, your choice of words is denigrating to the masses. Besides, who educated them to this belief? And I think you'll find you're wrong - the masses are coming more and more to believe that socialism is the only way they can have a decent life. They'll feel they have to steal it from the elites eventually, and socialism is a mechanism to do it by. And who can blame them? Is it better to have a few people at the top doing really well, thank you very much - obscenely well in more and more cases - or the majority doing ok for themselves?
All it will take now is for the right personality to come to the fore. We haven't seen him/her yet, but it's only a matter of time.
You see, we have this thing where people accuse each other of being "literally Hitler". The right wing is ascending and all is going Nazi, fascist, they scream. But actually, the revolution will most likely come from the other side. And it won't be the liberal left wing that drives it, but the old style communist left wing. I don't think even Corbyn is the man to spark such a revolution; currently, I think he gets in the way of it. But once he's ousted, who knows. He garnered a lot of popularity, the biggest "socialist" party in Europe now? If the elite and their business cronies want to stay at the top, they'll have to start looking at, as Polarbear says, throwing out a few more scraps. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Old Thread Alert!
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