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Kawasaki Jimbo
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 15 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
You're outside my house aren’t you. Shocked Laughing
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bhinso
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 15 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
Turns out you can't simply erase the past and reinvent yourself by using a pseudonym. Boo boo, no fair, my right to freedom, etc.


You can if you're Robert Thompson, or Jon Venables.
Unless you drop a bollock by bragging to your girlfriend about it, and then the state has to buy you another new identity.
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 15 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Notre-Dame on fire.

All Brexit's fault Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 15 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
https://i.imgur.com/5FKq1tt.jpg
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Im-a-Ridah
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PostPosted: 10:44 - 16 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
bhinso wrote:
Notre-Dame on fire.

All Brexit's fault Thumbs Up


It provided a wonderful Brexit related example actually.

Notice all those British people they were interviewing, saying how they go to Paris all the time and love all the wonderful culture and architecture? Those are the metropolitan liberal elite European citizens who hate Brexit. They are so out of touch that they wonder why ordinary working class Brexit voters don't also go to Paris 5 times a year like they do. I've literally been asked this by remainers and they said they thought these people would vote remain if they went to European cities several times a year like they did Laughing

I was like Doh! Brick Wall Brick Wall Brick Wall
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Kawasaki Jimbo
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 16 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Im-a-Ridah wrote:
I was like Doh! Brick Wall Brick Wall Brick Wall


Laughing
Nothing could ever enter or leave the country after a Brexit. It’s a Remain FACT.
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 16 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
mpd72 wrote:


I'm surprised the EU haven't tried to pin it on Russia yet.



It's a fair bet the bargain basement builders employed immigrants of #ntdwi nature.
It flared up just as they all downed tools and left at 4:30
You would of thought every imaginable precaution would be taken with heat sources near ancient timbers.
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Kawasaki Jimbo
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 16 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
doggone wrote:
It's a fair bet the bargain basement builders employed immigrants of #ntdwi nature.
It flared up just as they all downed tools and left at 4:30

They were all wearing gilets jaunes. Coincidence? Wink

doggone wrote:
You would of thought every imaginable precaution would be taken with heat sources near ancient timbers.

It happened here. The Cutty Sark caught fire due to a vacuum cleaner.
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 16 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
mpd72 wrote:
...You don't get the Daily Mail labelling Jeremy "refuses to condemn the IRA and fecked Dianne Abbot" Corbyn, do you?


Wait? Corbyn's knobbing Abbot?!
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 16 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
meh, I saw scaffolding - never underestimate the capability of humans to make fuckwit mistakes when it comes to renovating buildings

when I was growing up, I thought Brighton Pavilion was only famous for caching fire.
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Im-a-Ridah
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PostPosted: 14:25 - 16 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
mpd72 wrote:


He wanted to show off to his leftie mates that he was shagging a black bird. Got him a few socialist points back then.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6686639/Jeremy-Corbyn-drove-friends-flat-WANTED-Diane-Abbott-naked-bed.html


I doubt she even noticed Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 16 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
mpd72 wrote:

Rumours are spreading and the left leaning MSM are already in discredit/hoax mode.

Apparently it's not the first time recently that Notre Dammes has been targeted by Muslims, nor is it the first attack by Muslims on Christian or Catholic churches or priests in recent times.

No doubt it will be blamed on an innocent electrical fault or similar to not upset the Allah cart, but you can't help but wonder.

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/04/allah-est-grand-muslims-laugh-celebrate-as-blaze-destroys-notre-dame-cathedral-during-holy-week


https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/jihad-watch/

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A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, overt propaganda, poor or no sourcing to credible information and/or is fake news. Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for the purpose of profit or influence (Learn More). Sources listed in the Questionable Category may be very untrustworthy and should be fact checked on a per article basis. Please note sources on this list are not considered fake news unless specifically written in the notes section for that source. See all Questionable sources.

Reasoning: Extreme Right, Propaganda, Conspiracy, Hate Group

Notes: Jihad Watch is a blog affiliated with the David Horowitz Freedom Center, run by blogger Robert Spencer, it has been described as one of the main homes of the anti-Islamic Counter-jihad movement on the internet. It has been repeatedly criticized by numerous academics who believe that it promotes an Islamophobic worldview and conspiracy theories. (D. Van Zandt 10/21/2016)


Sounds legit Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:21 - 16 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Website bookmarked for future use thanks Thumbs Up

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-guardian/
LEFT-CENTER BIAS
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 16 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
bhinso wrote:
Website bookmarked for future use thanks Thumbs Up

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-guardian/
LEFT-CENTER BIAS


And? You forgot the rest:

These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information, but may require further investigation. See all Left-Center sources.

Overall, we rate The Guardian Left-Center biased based on story selection that moderately favors the left and High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing and a clean fact check record.
Detailed Report
Factual Reporting: HIGH
Country: United Kingdom
World Press Freedom Rank: UK 40/180

You can even use right-leaning sources as long as you do not have your blinkers on (but fuck them tbh). I have stated before it is about giving you the facts as descriptively as possible, the normative claims and statements built upon them are where you get the ideology informing the reporting which is where you start to understand the manipulation of the writing. but many people do not seem to understand that base distinction.

Another very simple thing to remember is not all articles are equal, and again many do not seem to comprehend this. Always check whether it is an opinion piece https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_piece

Check these out for posterity:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/breitbart/
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-mail/
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-express/
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-sun/
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-telegraph/

Our most popular press is garbage.

The guardian aint bad, not perfect. Here is one of the best https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/financial-times/
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 16 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Overall, we rate The Guardian Left-Center biased based on story selection that moderately favors the left and High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing and a clean fact check record.

Factual reporting of selected stories means they still don't necessarily discuss the other side of the coin, so they're not even-handed. I applaud the avoidance of fake news and conspiracy theories if that's what the paper does. However, too many "reports" these days are simply opinion pieces published to persuade the reader. Give me ALL the facts, the counter-arguments, the evidence, then I'LL decide what to believe.

Besides, it was The Guardian which reported there were 2 million in the Remain march in London last month, hastily revised down to 1 million, yet crowd analysis experts subsequently reported it as between 300,000 - 400,000.
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 16 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Or it could be that the left really is more dependable. Not saying it is, just offering another angle. But yes, any website purporting to make an unbiased assessment needs to demonstrate its own absence of bias, which is hard to do.
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 16 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
mpd72 wrote:


Who bias checks media bias fact-check?

It looks to be pro lefty to me. Smile


I think its well known that "fact checkers" are basically just a front for left wing groups to fabricate "evidence" against right wing new stories. Rarely do they find left wing groups to have lied, even though "leading beyond authority" is one of their favourite tactics Laughing

For example a fact checker could find the lowest possible estimate of something like immigration, and then claim all higher figures claimed by any conservative are "fake news".

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PostPosted: 22:10 - 16 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
I've watched this for years, forget left or right, the UK has had its feet set in concrete, and about to be pushed overboard.
Never believe a politician; what you read in the papers; watch on the TV, or hear on the radio. They are all under the thumb of seriously big money - the corporations that rule the World. Seek out John Perkins on You Tube "Confessions of an economic hit man". You'll get the picture.

There are a few good souls in parliament, and I would put Bill Cash amongst them. The rest are clueless.

Brexit? They'll not let us leave, but they'll have a fight on their hands.

Suggested reading as a starter for 10: "Theresa May, double agent", parts 1,2 & 3.
https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/

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Im-a-Ridah
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 16 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
Or it could be that the left really is more dependable. Not saying it is, just offering another angle. But yes, any website purporting to make an unbiased assessment needs to demonstrate its own absence of bias, which is hard to do.


The left is much more biased, but they are way smarter about how they do it. They avoid headline points that can be easily challenged. Go watch some episodes of "BBC Click" and see if you can spot the subtle theme.
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