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PostPosted: 12:37 - 25 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good on him. As long as it isn't tokenism.
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 25 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
Diggs wrote:
Good on him. As long as it isn't tokenism.


I'd say it's quite clearly not. They have been very careful in selecting who gets approved as candidates, not only from all cultures, but from all walks of life and differing political backgrounds.



Isn't that positive discrimination in action? Or 'tokenism' to use the common term? Don't get me wrong, I think he is right to do it and I'm glad you agree.
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 25 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diggs wrote:
Isn't that positive discrimination in action? Or 'tokenism' to use the common term? Don't get me wrong, I think he is right to do it and I'm glad you agree.


Probably yeah, but then so was Corbyn shagging Dianne Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 25 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

bhinso wrote:
Diggs wrote:
Isn't that positive discrimination in action? Or 'tokenism' to use the common term? Don't get me wrong, I think he is right to do it and I'm glad you agree.


Probably yeah, but then so was Corbyn shagging Dianne Thumbs Up


You what mate Shocked Laughing

That was bestiality not positive discrimination.

The only question worth asking is how he got an erection in the days before Viagra.
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 25 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably thought about Stalin or something.
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 25 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hunt says he would get Brexit through and if it came to a choice between no Brexit and a no deal departure, he#d go for no deal.

https://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/next-tory-leader-must-be-somebody-who-believes-in-brexit-says-hunt-11364357650725

Is this just posturing for the next leadership challenge? Is he being genuine or is he just trying to eclipse a Farage resurgence.

Reading what he says I like what I am hearing but as we all know, these bastards in Westminster will say the sky is pink if they think it will get votes.

Anyone think there is anything other than 'ME' coming out of his mouth?
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PostPosted: 23:54 - 25 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Hunt says he would get Brexit through and if it came to a choice between no Brexit and a no deal departure, he#d go for no deal.



I agree that a dedicated leaver should be the next PM and no deal (which doesn't actually mean no deal, just want to add that in for all the remainer hard of thinking) should be the preferred option, but whoever that may be can say what they like, they still have to get it passed by the HoC and, at the moment, the numbers don't add up, the high ups don't want us to leave.

Now, if someone finds the loophole that says the leader of our government can unilaterally decide to do what they like, then they might get the vote, other than that, the next few weeks/months/years will be a complete political clusterfuck.
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 26 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just worried that if there was another referendum that remain would edge it. The leavers who switch will have done it purely because the government have fucked Brexit up. Not really a valid reason in my opinion.
My dad has switched from leave to remain because of this.
Let's leave with no deal Praying
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 26 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

bhinso wrote:

Let's leave with no deal Praying


It's just called "leaving".
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 26 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Hunt says he would get Brexit through and if it came to a choice between no Brexit and a no deal departure, he#d go for no deal.

https://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/next-tory-leader-must-be-somebody-who-believes-in-brexit-says-hunt-11364357650725

Is this just posturing for the next leadership challenge? Is he being genuine or is he just trying to eclipse a Farage resurgence.

Reading what he says I like what I am hearing but as we all know, these bastards in Westminster will say the sky is pink if they think it will get votes.

Anyone think there is anything other than 'ME' coming out of his mouth?


Hunt would never go for no deal. Never ever ever ever. May said the same thing when she stood. As soon as he is in office and you can't remove him the real Jeremy Cunt will come out, the remainer.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me!

bhinso wrote:
I'm just worried that if there was another referendum that remain would edge it. The leavers who switch will have done it purely because the government have fucked Brexit up. Not really a valid reason in my opinion.
My dad has switched from leave to remain because of this.
Let's leave with no deal Praying


Remain will probably get about £1 billion to spend on campaigning. Just imagine how many multinationals, billionaires and government bodies will send lorry loads of cash to remain to keep the new global order which works for them, on track.
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 26 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
bhinso wrote:

Let's leave with no deal Praying


It's just called "leaving".


OK. Permit me to play Devil's Advocate for a minute:

The ballot box said 'Remain in EU' or 'Leave EU'.

The result was 52% in favour of 'Leave EU'.
So why the fuck is everyone banging on about any deal at all?
If this was true we'd have gone on 29th March and be moving on by now.
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 26 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

bhinso wrote:


OK. Permit me to play Devil's Advocate for a minute:

The ballot box said 'Remain in EU' or 'Leave EU'.

The result was 52% in favour of 'Leave EU'.
So why the fuck is everyone banging on about any deal at all?
If this was true we'd have gone on 29th March and be moving on by now.


It is, or rather has become, just a tactic to negate the referendum result. Leave does indeed mean leave. Deals and such are something else. Important, and problematic in some cases, but they have nothing to do with the act of leaving the EU. They could be negotiated before we leave (preferable in some cases), or after we leave.
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PostPosted: 23:35 - 26 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

bhinso wrote:

OK. Permit me to play Devil's Advocate for a minute:

The ballot box said 'Remain in EU' or 'Leave EU'.

The result was 52% in favour of 'Leave EU'.
So why the fuck is everyone banging on about any deal at all?
If this was true we'd have gone on 29th March and be moving on by now.


Leave may as well be the Norway option - they're not a EU member.

Importantly, it would be very much in the spirit of the slim Leave victory; 52:48 is not a mandate for revolution, it's a mandate for course correction at most - not to mention the fact that now that the scale of the Brexit scam has become known, the numbers stand at about 55:45 for Remain, with an upwards tendency.
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PostPosted: 00:40 - 27 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
And they keep coming...
Farage is being quite clear that this is not just another UKIP.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4_kMo1XoAAHDSU.jpg


Can't take her seriously, she has LLB after her name, and she's not English. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 01:27 - 27 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

cdlxxvi wrote:
52:48 is not a mandate for revolution


Near 50/50 split in the populous - and MSM and politicians are doing the best to polarise the differences - is a recipe for civil war Sad
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PostPosted: 03:29 - 27 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

HardlyDavidson wrote:
cdlxxvi wrote:
52:48 is not a mandate for revolution


Near 50/50 split in the populous - and MSM and politicians are doing the best to polarise the differences - is a recipe for civil war Sad


It is when the losing side still gets to win because they are wealthy, powerful and influential.

cdlxxvi wrote:
bhinso wrote:

OK. Permit me to play Devil's Advocate for a minute:

The ballot box said 'Remain in EU' or 'Leave EU'.

The result was 52% in favour of 'Leave EU'.
So why the fuck is everyone banging on about any deal at all?
If this was true we'd have gone on 29th March and be moving on by now.


Leave may as well be the Norway option - they're not a EU member.

Importantly, it would be very much in the spirit of the slim Leave victory; 52:48 is not a mandate for revolution, it's a mandate for course correction at most - not to mention the fact that now that the scale of the Brexit scam has become known, the numbers stand at about 55:45 for Remain, with an upwards tendency.


No because Norway is a member of the EU. It's a different type of membership, but it's still membership. If it wasn't EU membership you wouldn't advocate it. Canada and South Korea are not in the EU. Nobody who wants Norway means it anyway, they want to have Norway as a position from which to argue for opting back in to the rest of the EU.

Norway
Now opt back in to justice and home affairs
Need a say, opt back in to the commission and parliament
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...
<No second referendum now!>
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Join the Euro
Centralised budget
Centralised Army
Stand in line and follow orders
Prison for those who question the EU.

Yeah I'll pass on remain/Norway thanks Cool
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PostPosted: 04:13 - 27 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im-a-Ridah wrote:

No because Norway is a member of the EU.


No. EU consists of 28 countries, and Norway is not one of them. The fact that it has otherwise a close relationship with EU is irrelevant. That relationship is not membership.
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 27 Apr 2019    Post subject: Reply with quote

We don't need a Norway option. Norway is Norway. We need a UK option. That to be, outside of the EU, but with close cooperation on some things, looser cooperation on others, and a separate path on yet others, with the choice to take what we can agree on and leave the rest. Kind of like what the rest of the free, independent world does.
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