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| mpd72 wrote: | | Rob Fzs wrote: |
You're thick as shit, they have numerous deals with all these big economies, mostly tarrif free up to a point to protect domestic industries, if you don't understand this, then you are too dumb to relise the damage unfettered free trade does. |
Go for it, prove me as thick as shit by showing me one from a RoW top 5 economy.
| Rob Fzs wrote: | if you don't understand this, then you are too dumb to relise the damage unfettered free trade does. |
Ah, got you. So the EU free trade area is bad for us then?
| Rob Fzs wrote: | People cant benefit from it when they have no job, because all the jobs have been taken by people who can build and make, the things they used to make abroad, because tarrifs have been removed. wake up. |
Phew. It's lucky the manufacturing powerhouse of Europe and the worlds 4th largest economy doesn't have tariff free access to the UK then eh?
| Rob Fzs wrote: | Do tell me, why do you want tarrif free access to crap from these countries? how are you going to benefit, when the benefits bill from peoples lost jobs will no doubt put your tax bill up more ? |
I want trade deals which will benefit us, not Germany. It's not hard to grasp the concept. This may not include free trade deals, in fact Germany having to pay tariffs to the UK could be beneficial for us.
| Rob Fzs wrote: | Do tell me how regulatory equivalence for all these different systems is going to be sorted 'quick' |
Agreeing a trade deal between 2 countries is far simpler than between 28.
| Rob Fzs wrote: | Let me guess, you'll read that as saying it cant be done, it can, but not at a damaging stupid way of doing it such as you suggest, whats the rush? are you going to die soon or something?!?
Australia has fuck all people to buy our stuff anyway, so how are we going to benefit from that? |
Let's have a look at some of the economies smaller than Australia shall we? You might notice that the biggest free trade deals accomplished by the EU are to economies far smaller. You may also notice a lot of EU countries have smaller economies.
Spain
Mexico
Indonesia
Turkey
Netherlands
Switzerland
Saudi Arabia
Argentina
Taiwan
Sweden
Poland
Belgium
Thailand
Nigeria
Austria
Iran
United Arab Emirates
Norway
Egypt
Hong Kong
Israel
Denmark
Philippines
Singapore
Malaysia
South Africa
Ireland
Venezuela
Pakistan
Colombia
Chile
Finland
Bangladesh
Portugal
Vietnam
Peru
Greece
Czech Republic
Romania
New Zealand
Iraq
Algeria
Qatar
Kazakhstan
Hungary
Kuwait
Morocco
Puerto Rico
Ecuador
Angola
Sudan
Ukraine
Slovakia
Sri Lanka
Syria[n 4]
Ethiopia
Dominican Republic
Kenya
Guatemala
Uzbekistan
Myanmar
Oman
Luxembourg
Costa Rica
Panama
Uruguay
Bulgaria
Lebanon
Croatia
Belarus
Tanzania
Macau
Slovenia
Ghana
Lithuania
Tunisia
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Jordan
Serbia
Azerbaijan
Turkmenistan
Côte d'Ivoire
Bolivia
Libya
Bahrain
Cameroon
Latvia
Paraguay
Yemen
El Salvador
Uganda
Estonia
Honduras
Zambia
Nepal
Trinidad and Tobago
Iceland
Papua New Guinea
Cyprus
Cambodia
Afghanistan
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Botswana
Senegal
Gabon
Georgia
Zimbabwe
Mali
Jamaica
Laos
Nicaragua
Albania
Mauritius
Burkina Faso
Equatorial Guinea
Mozambique
Brunei
Mongolia
Malta
Macedonia
Namibia
Armenia
Chad
Madagascar
Bahamas
Benin
Rwanda
Haiti
Republic of Congo
Niger
Tajikistan
Moldova
Kosovo
Kyrgyzstan
Guinea
Malawi
Eritrea
Mauritania
Fiji
Barbados
Togo
Montenegro
Sierra Leone
Swaziland
Suriname
Guyana
Maldives
Burundi
South Sudan
Timor-Leste
Lesotho
Bhutan
Liberia
Djibouti
Central African Republic
Belize
Cabo Verde
San Marino
Seychelles
Antigua and Barbuda
St. Lucia
Solomon Islands
Guinea-Bissau
Grenada
The Gambia
St. Kitts and Nevis
Samoa
St. Vincent and the Grenadines
Vanuatu
Comoros
Dominica
Tonga
São Tomé and Príncipe
Federated States of Micronesia
Palau
Marshall Islands
Kiribati
Tuvalu
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Mexico
Indonesia
Turkey
Netherlands
Switzerland
Saudi Arabia
Argentina
Taiwan
Sweden
Poland
Belgium
Thailand
Nigeria
Austria
Iran
United Arab Emirates
Norway
Egypt
Hong Kong
Israel
Denmark
Philippines
Singapore
Malaysia
South Africa
Ireland
Venezuela
Pakistan
Colombia
Chile
Finland
Bangladesh
Portugal
Vietnam
Peru
Greece
Czech Republic
Romania
New Zealand
Iraq
Algeria
Qatar
Kazakhstan
Hungary
Kuwait
Morocco
Puerto Rico
Ecuador
Angola
Sudan
Ukraine
Slovakia
Sri Lanka
Syria[n 4]
Ethiopia
Dominican Republic
Kenya
Guatemala
Uzbekistan
Myanmar
Oman
Luxembourg
Costa Rica
Panama
Uruguay
Bulgaria
Lebanon
Croatia
Belarus
Tanzania
Macau
Slovenia
Ghana
Lithuania
Tunisia
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Jordan
Serbia
Azerbaijan
Turkmenistan
Côte d'Ivoire
Bolivia
Libya
Bahrain
Cameroon
Latvia
Paraguay
Yemen
El Salvador
Uganda
Estonia
Honduras
Zambia
Nepal
Trinidad and Tobago
Iceland
Papua New Guinea
Cyprus
Cambodia
Afghanistan
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Botswana
Senegal
Gabon
Georgia
Zimbabwe
Mali
Jamaica
Laos
Nicaragua
Albania
Mauritius
Burkina Faso
Equatorial Guinea
Mozambique
Brunei
Mongolia
Malta
Macedonia
Namibia
Armenia
Chad
Madagascar
Bahamas
Benin
Rwanda
Haiti
Republic of Congo
Niger
Tajikistan
Moldova
Kosovo
Kyrgyzstan
Guinea
Malawi
Eritrea
Mauritania
Fiji
Barbados
Togo
Montenegro
Sierra Leone
Swaziland
Suriname
Guyana
Maldives
Burundi
South Sudan
Timor-Leste
Lesotho
Bhutan
Liberia
Djibouti
Central African Republic
Belize
Cabo Verde
San Marino
Seychelles
Antigua and Barbuda
St. Lucia
Solomon Islands
Guinea-Bissau
Grenada
The Gambia
St. Kitts and Nevis
Samoa
St. Vincent and the Grenadines
Vanuatu
Comoros
Dominica
Tonga
São Tomé and Príncipe
Federated States of Micronesia
Palau
Marshall Islands
Kiribati
Tuvalu
| Rob Fzs wrote: | It's common sense really, when you get a bike tank painted, you can have it quick and cheap, but it will be shit wont it, the same goes for trade deals. |
If I want a bike tank painted, I take it to 1 person to do the job properly, not 28 who want to argue abut how the job should be done.  |
what does a job doing properly suggest then thick fuck? ding it in 5 mins flat and hoping for the best?
This is your argument, and anyone say the tank looks like shit after 5 mins of painting is a remain voter
If you're a steel producer here, you're getting fucked over by cheaper German steel being imported here, steel of which is of vital strategic importance to us., so thats that argument smashed.
Regulation changes daily, the second we leave the eu, everything has to be check for illegal imports, hence no deal doesn't exist as you need the following deals, to trade without massive hold ups of freight and trade from said countries.
Ta Da - China deals - https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/international-affairs/international-customs-cooperation-mutual-administrative-assistance-agreements/china_en
Japan deals - https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=OJ:L:2008:062:TOC
Us deals -https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/business/international-affairs/international-customs-cooperation-mutual-administrative-assistance-agreements/united-states-america_en
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Nope, once again, you've completely ignored the question and posted irrelevant diversionary tactics. I'll try again....Third time lucky eh?
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Oh really? When did the EU negotiate a free trade deal with China China China? I must have blinked and missed it. |
How about this one? Bit too awkward to admit you were wrong eh? 
| mpd72 wrote: | | Rob Fzs wrote: |
You're thick as shit, they have numerous deals with all these big economies, mostly tarrif free up to a point to protect domestic industries, if you don't understand this, then you are too dumb to relise the damage unfettered free trade does. |
Go for it, prove me as thick as shit by showing me one from a RoW top 5 economy. |
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Non tarrif barriers cost more than tariffs, tell me why?
you seem to be an expert on trade deals, tell me why non tarrif barriers cost more than tarrifs? just to show everyone your expertise on these matters as you know what you're on about
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You can't answer the questions can you? Why not just admit you're wrong?
Unlike your bold claims, China and other top 5 RoW economies DO NOT have countless trade deals with the EU, of which most are tariff free, do they? 
You know why? Because Germoney doesn't want them. It likes protectionism, because it gives its manufacturing an unfair advantage.
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| Rob Fzs wrote: | https://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2016/07/24/welcome-to-the-trade-war-china-imposes-tariffs-on-eu-us-and-japanese-steel-imports/#7ccd999a505d
This is the reality, this is why there are no free trade deals between major nations, why would you sell your own industry down the river ? |
Oh really? You've changed your tune again.
Why did you claim the EU has numerous trade deals with major economies, most of which are tariff free then?
My fish have better short term memory.
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You're thick as shit, they have numerous deals with all these big economies, mostly tarrif free up to a point to protect domestic industries, if you don't understand this, then you are too dumb to relise the damage unfettered free trade does. |
Cough cough...
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you've even seen it yourself, as you didn't bold the 'up to a point bit'
log out bro, you're beaten
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Funny how time seems to repeat itself?
This discussion was had 150 years ago with the Corn laws.
| Quote: | In 1877 the price of British-grown wheat averaged 56 shillings and 9 pence a quarter and for the rest of the nineteenth century it never reached within 10 shillings of that figure. In 1878 the price fell to 46 shillings and 5 pence. In 1886 the wheat price decreased to 31 shillings a quarter. By 1885 wheat-growing land declined by a million acres (4,000 km²) (28½%) and the barley area had dwindled greatly also. Britain's dependence on imported grain during the 1830s was 2%; during the 1860s it was 24%; during the 1880s it was 45%, (for wheat alone during the 1880s it was 65%.)[32] The 1881 census showed a decline of 92,250 in agricultural labourers in the ten years since 1871, with an increase of 53,496 urban labourers. Many of these had previously been farm workers who migrated to the cities to find employment,[33] despite agricultural labourers' wages being higher than those of Europe.[33] Agriculture's contribution to the national income was about 17% in 1871; by 1911 it was less than 7%.[34]
Robert Ensor wrote that these years witnessed the ruin of British agriculture, "which till then had almost as conspicuously led the world, [and which] was thrown overboard in a storm like an unwanted cargo" due to "the sudden and overwhelming invasion...by American prairie-wheat in the late seventies."[35] Previously, agriculture had employed more people in Britain than any other industry and until 1880 it "retained a kind of headship," with its technology far ahead of most European farming, its cattle breeds superior, its cropping the most scientific and its yields the highest, with high wages leading to higher standard of living for agricultural workers than in comparable European countries.[33] ...
However, after 1877 wages declined and "farmers themselves sank into ever increasing embarrassments; bankruptcies and auctions followed each other; the countryside lost its most respected figures," with those who tended the land with greatest pride and conscience suffering most as the only chance of survival came in lowering standards.[36] "For twenty years," Ensor claimed, "the only chance for any young or enterprising person on the countryside was to get out of it."[36] The decline of agriculture also led to a fall in rural rents, especially in areas with arable land.
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Although proficient farmers on good lands did well, farmers with mediocre skills or marginal lands were at a disadvantage. Many moved to the cities, and unprecedented numbers emigrated. Many emigrants were small under-capitalised grain farmers who were squeezed out by low prices and inability to increase production or adapt to the more complex challenge of raising livestock.[43]
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Britain's reliance on imported food led to the danger of it being starved into submission during wartime. In 1914 Britain was dependent on imports for four-fifths of her wheat and 40% of her meat.[45] During the First World War, the Germans in their U-boat campaign attempted to take advantage of this by sinking ships importing food into Britain, but they were eventually defeated.[46] During the Second World War in the Battle of the Atlantic, Germany tried again to starve Britain into surrender, but, as in the previous war, was unsuccessful.[47] |
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Next you'll be telling me these trade deals are 100% free trade aswell with no quotas and no phasing out of tariffs
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| Itchy wrote: | Funny how time seems to repeat itself?
This discussion was had 150 years ago with the Corn laws.
| Quote: | In 1877 the price of British-grown wheat averaged 56 shillings and 9 pence a quarter and for the rest of the nineteenth century it never reached within 10 shillings of that figure. In 1878 the price fell to 46 shillings and 5 pence. In 1886 the wheat price decreased to 31 shillings a quarter. By 1885 wheat-growing land declined by a million acres (4,000 km²) (28½%) and the barley area had dwindled greatly also. Britain's dependence on imported grain during the 1830s was 2%; during the 1860s it was 24%; during the 1880s it was 45%, (for wheat alone during the 1880s it was 65%.)[32] The 1881 census showed a decline of 92,250 in agricultural labourers in the ten years since 1871, with an increase of 53,496 urban labourers. Many of these had previously been farm workers who migrated to the cities to find employment,[33] despite agricultural labourers' wages being higher than those of Europe.[33] Agriculture's contribution to the national income was about 17% in 1871; by 1911 it was less than 7%.[34]
Robert Ensor wrote that these years witnessed the ruin of British agriculture, "which till then had almost as conspicuously led the world, [and which] was thrown overboard in a storm like an unwanted cargo" due to "the sudden and overwhelming invasion...by American prairie-wheat in the late seventies."[35] Previously, agriculture had employed more people in Britain than any other industry and until 1880 it "retained a kind of headship," with its technology far ahead of most European farming, its cattle breeds superior, its cropping the most scientific and its yields the highest, with high wages leading to higher standard of living for agricultural workers than in comparable European countries.[33] ...
However, after 1877 wages declined and "farmers themselves sank into ever increasing embarrassments; bankruptcies and auctions followed each other; the countryside lost its most respected figures," with those who tended the land with greatest pride and conscience suffering most as the only chance of survival came in lowering standards.[36] "For twenty years," Ensor claimed, "the only chance for any young or enterprising person on the countryside was to get out of it."[36] The decline of agriculture also led to a fall in rural rents, especially in areas with arable land.
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Although proficient farmers on good lands did well, farmers with mediocre skills or marginal lands were at a disadvantage. Many moved to the cities, and unprecedented numbers emigrated. Many emigrants were small under-capitalised grain farmers who were squeezed out by low prices and inability to increase production or adapt to the more complex challenge of raising livestock.[43]
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Britain's reliance on imported food led to the danger of it being starved into submission during wartime. In 1914 Britain was dependent on imports for four-fifths of her wheat and 40% of her meat.[45] During the First World War, the Germans in their U-boat campaign attempted to take advantage of this by sinking ships importing food into Britain, but they were eventually defeated.[46] During the Second World War in the Battle of the Atlantic, Germany tried again to starve Britain into surrender, but, as in the previous war, was unsuccessful.[47] |
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Would you let the Chinese be in charge of making our steel for the navy rather than have the protection of our own industry, because they don't seem to have an issue with slapping tariffs here there and everywhere, do they?
Your little copy pasta seems to forget about rationing and 6 weeks left of food in the entire country, reckless policy.
MDP seems to be part of the unilateral removal of tariffs club, for some ideological goal to beat Germany, rather than common sense.
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you need to learn to read again bro , wto rules are mostly tariff free now |
Good. You'll have no trouble answering the question you keep avoiding then eh? Cough Cough..
| mpd72 wrote: | | Rob Fzs wrote: |
You're thick as shit, they have numerous deals with all these big economies, mostly tarrif free up to a point to protect domestic industries, if you don't understand this, then you are too dumb to relise the damage unfettered free trade does. |
Go for it, prove me as thick as shit by showing me one from a RoW top 5 economy. |
Any one of the top 5 will do.... whenever your ready eh?
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| mpd72 wrote: | | Rob Fzs wrote: |
you need to learn to read again bro , wto rules are mostly tariff free now |
Good. You'll have no trouble answering the question you keep avoiding then eh? Cough Cough..
| mpd72 wrote: | | Rob Fzs wrote: |
You're thick as shit, they have numerous deals with all these big economies, mostly tarrif free up to a point to protect domestic industries, if you don't understand this, then you are too dumb to relise the damage unfettered free trade does. |
Go for it, prove me as thick as shit by showing me one from a RoW top 5 economy. |
Any one of the top 5 will do.... whenever your ready eh? |
i don't think you understand at all really, i've linked you to the deals on customs cooperation, then you have WTO rules which are very close to being tarrif free and you then have a customs union that unilaterally puts tariffs on things or removes then up to a point TO PROTECT DOMESTIC INDUSTRY, just like we have voted to
We can keep going like this all day, idc, non tarrif barrier removal makes it easier for our shippers to send things abroad, when you stop using the arguments i did 12 months ago, you will learn as to why there is no free trade deals anywhere as to what you think there are in your simple binary mind
I will repeat though, the customs agreements i've linked, and the tariffs knocked off in the customs unions will make more of a dramatic difference to exporters than simply removing tariffs , you can remove tarrifs all you like, if the barriers are there with paperwork, people wont bother, worked it out yet?
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| Rob Fzs wrote: | i don't think you understand at all really, i've linked you to the deals on customs cooperation, then you have WTO rules which are very close to being tarrif free and you then have a customs union that unilaterally puts tariffs on things or removes then up to a point TO PROTECT DOMESTIC INDUSTRY, just like we have voted to
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Will these be the same WTO rules which we'll be knackered by, if we have to work under them once out of the EU, due to the crippling tariffs involved?
So, free trade deals are bad, unless EU, in which case we cant live without them and WTO are practically tariff free unless referring to the UK out of the EU, where in that circumstance, they are suddenly crippling. Righto.... Remainer's to a tee...
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| mpd72 wrote: | | Rob Fzs wrote: | i don't think you understand at all really, i've linked you to the deals on customs cooperation, then you have WTO rules which are very close to being tarrif free and you then have a customs union that unilaterally puts tariffs on things or removes then up to a point TO PROTECT DOMESTIC INDUSTRY, just like we have voted to
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Will these be the same WTO rules which we'll be knackered by, if we have to work under them once out of the EU, due to the crippling tariffs involved?
So, free trade deals are bad, unless EU, in which case we cant live without them and WTO are practically tariff free unless referring to the UK out of the EU, where in that circumstance, they are suddenly crippling. Righto.... Remainer's to a tee...
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This is where your ignorance shows, wto tariffs won't matter, it's the non tariff barriers that do the damage, in which a no deal scenario would create.
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MDP seems to be part of the unilateral removal of tariffs club, for some ideological goal to beat Germany, rather than common sense. |
Nope, you're not listening. That's not what I said is it. Here, I know you've got short term selective memory loss, so here it is again!
| mpd72 wrote: | I want trade deals which will benefit us, not Germany. It's not hard to grasp the concept. This may not include free trade deals, in fact Germany having to pay tariffs to the UK could be beneficial for us. |
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