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PostPosted: 18:12 - 23 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
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All the answers are there, MDP cant read more than 100 words so he might struggle.


You're right. I do struggle wading through your wall of shite diversion tactics, which you use when you don't have the balls to admit you were talking bollocks.

I'm still waiting for just one example of the numerous major economies the EU has trade deals with, most of which are tariff free.
It's only the 10th time of asking, so maybe you just keep forgetting to admit you were wrong?


Facts my dear boy Laughing They don't exist in tory boy land, you don't understand you can trade with no tariffs, without some massive agreement, the reasons for why are in itchys piece, you're just making a dick of yourself the longer you ignore this fact, and everyone else can see it.
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 23 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
Pharmaceutical Tariff Elimination Agreement


https://www.wto.org/images/img_tratop/ch4d_trilat_web_13_3.jpg


A1 Formulations
A2 Bulk medicines
A3 Inputs specific to the pharmaceutical industry
Group B Chemical inputs B
C1 Hospital and laboratory inputs
C2 Medical technology equipment

So what you're saying is based on a tariff saving of 0% for A1 medical products and 0.2% on A2 products and 3% on everything else related to the pharmaceutical industry between developed countries this will make us rich beyond our wildest dreams!

Also EU and US tariffs average 3% with 0% on one of the biggest UK industries Pharmaceuticals. So you're telling me that a saving of 3% will increase UK exports by billions on billions?

This raises the question then if there is 0% why aren't Astrazenica and GSK raping the US Pharmaceuticals industry. Why haven't GSK and ATZ captured all the US market with A1 drugs? After all there is a 0% tariff on them. Meaning effectively it is a free trade deal in name AND in action.




The answer is the US domestic pharma industry protects itself with their own regulations and customs exactly like Rob says. OTOH Pzier tried to take over the UK pharma industry in 2014 and 2015.


Would love MDp to answer this, Laughing

He won't ofcourse
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 23 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.tremr.com/pete-north/trade-no-easy-answers#Brexit

Info on why the customs union is dead and especially the bit about why our selling in to the Eu becomes fucked without an agreement on tariffs and rules of origin as they will not allow us to sell back to their market, things they already have a tariff on, to stop undercutting.
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 23 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Rice


That's milled rice. Like Japan PRC won't take unmilled rice. Heh when the US wangled rice to Japan the importers couldn't even give the rice away.

Rob Fzs wrote:
Other stuff



Oh the UK pharma industry did grow as a result of the 0% tariffs from 4bn to 34bn in 17 years. However this means all the extra money that is assumed to be made from future trade deals is already being made and therefore can't be counted again.
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 24 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 12:16 - 24 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
Rob Fzs wrote:
Rice


That's milled rice. Like Japan PRC won't take unmilled rice. Heh when the US wangled rice to Japan the importers couldn't even give the rice away.

Rob Fzs wrote:
Other stuff



Oh the UK pharma industry did grow as a result of the 0% tariffs from 4bn to 34bn in 17 years. However this means all the extra money that is assumed to be made from future trade deals is already being made and therefore can't be counted again.


Indeed, noticed this the other day

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDMbMcGW0AEa5xu.jpg

Even on a free trade deal like the ones dup pines for, the quota will never ever get filled because they cant send the products because of regulatory divergence.
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 24 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

My, my.

Even Comrade Corbyn has admitted that we need to get out of the single market and the four crippling "freedoms" that it imposes on us.

he said of his party’s future immigration policy. “What there wouldn’t be is whole-scale importation of underpaid workers from central Europe in order to destroy conditions, particularly in the construction industries.”

Interest intensifies.
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 24 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 16:59 - 24 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
My, my.

Even Comrade Corbyn has admitted that we need to get out of the single market and the four crippling "freedoms" that it imposes on us.

he said of his party’s future immigration policy. “What there wouldn’t be is whole-scale importation of underpaid workers from central Europe in order to destroy conditions, particularly in the construction industries.”

Interest intensifies.

He throws one of these out occasionally, the ratio's about 1/20.
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 25 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

but.......but........ young people voted for Jeremy, they even sang his name, imagine their sadness................
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 25 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't really understand why there were jubilant celebrations by labour supporters when Corbyn effectively "lost". Watching them on BBC Look East baffled me, somewhat.
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PostPosted: 16:12 - 25 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

GrumpyGuts wrote:
Can't really understand why there were jubilant celebrations by labour supporters when Corbyn effectively "lost". Watching them on BBC Look East baffled me, somewhat.

Not effectively, he did lose.
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 25 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

So why the parades?

On Look East again, these supporters were jumping all over the place and screaming some political chants; seemed like the second coming of Jesus.

What sort of crack are they on?
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 25 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

GrumpyGuts wrote:
So why the parades?

On Look East again, these supporters were jumping all over the place and screaming some political chants; seemed like the second coming of Jesus.

What sort of crack are they on?


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PostPosted: 12:45 - 26 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

janner_10 wrote:
GrumpyGuts wrote:
So why the parades?

On Look East again, these supporters were jumping all over the place and screaming some political chants; seemed like the second coming of Jesus.

What sort of crack are they on?


Manned up and rejected the car yet?


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PostPosted: 13:28 - 26 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem with citizens rights negotiations explained by Michel Barnier to Lords EU Committee:

https://i.imgur.com/C66bkte.jpg

Both UK and EU citizens abroad rights are best protected under EU law. EU law is more progressive than UK law.That is the problem. Fact.
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 26 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

mpd72 wrote:
Val wrote:
The problem with citizens rights negotiations explained by Michel Barnier to Lords EU Committee:


Both UK and EU citizens abroad rights are best protected under EU law. EU law is more progressive than UK law.That is the problem. Fact.


UK citizens lived and worked in mainland Europe and vise-versa prior to the EU. Fact.


Please don't confuse him with facts
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 26 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Val wrote:
Both UK and EU citizens abroad rights are best protected under EU law. EU law is more progressive than UK law.That is the problem. Fact.

Don't let the door hit you on your way out.

You need to be living with those who're as progressive as you are. Being in the UK is just holding you back. The oppressive regime in the UK is smothering you and stopping you from blooming into the special snowflake you want to be.

Be a man. Come on, when do you want to leave?
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 26 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which part of "EU diktats only apply in EU vassal states," is confusing him?

I wonder how he'd respond to Turkish courts, just for example, claiming jurisdiction over Turks inside the EU.
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PostPosted: 01:09 - 27 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Val wrote:
Both UK and EU citizens abroad rights are best protected under EU law. EU law is more progressive than UK law.That is the problem. Fact.

Don't let the door hit you on your way out.

You need to be living with those who're as progressive as you are. Being in the UK is just holding you back. The oppressive regime in the UK is smothering you and stopping you from blooming into the special snowflake you want to be.

Be a man. Come on, when do you want to leave?


It is much more fun been here.

Because the thread is about Brexit what will happen next, here let me give you the latest from the strong & stable:😂

“Britain is not some ‘Banana Republic’, as the EU well knows. We need to talk."

....... please, no really, please .... no, honestly we want to talk, .. I mean ...cummon guys ....can we honestly just talk? Laughing

senior UK official told Torygraph today...to be continued.
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 27 Jul 2017    Post subject: Reply with quote

Val wrote:
The problem with citizens rights negotiations explained by Michel Barnier to Lords EU Committee:



Both UK and EU citizens abroad rights are best protected under EU law. EU law is more progressive than UK law.That is the problem. Fact.


ORLY? proof ?

The reason they want the ECJ to look after them, is entirely to keep their finger in the pie, what other foreign court has jurisdiction over citizens in another country? as Mr Barnier spluttered when asked, NONE!
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