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Ribenapigeon wrote: | linuxyeti wrote: |
Again, makes no difference, we have no control or say over the matter now. |
The difference is the middle-classes and wealthier will be looked after. |
And again, makes no difference, we, the population have no control of it, whther it makes the poor poorer, or, richer, makes no odds, you, cannot do anything about it. The government has a large majority, meaning, they're not likely to have to go 'back to the country' with anything, as, they 'have their mandate', best anybody can do is cry, laugh, or just shrug your shoulders and carry on.
Brexit is happening, trade negotiation etc, being held by politicians & their aids/advisors, these negotiations are not open to the general population, hence, we can only sit by on the sidelines. Stop bleating, it's done, it's over.. ____________________ Beware what photos you upload, or link to on here, especially if you have family members on them |
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Vote Labour?
If they actually learn what went wrong they might have a chance.
Regurgitating the 'everyone who doesn't agree with us is a racist' or we need more blacks/homosexuals/Asians/women/gays/lesbians/anyone but white males isn't going to endear them to large swathes of the country.
If they get someone as leader who picks the best people for the jobs irrespective of their colour or who they snog then they have a chance.
It isn't going to happen though, they will have fanfares when the next black lesbian gender neutral illiterate idiot becomes a shadow minister.
Look at us, we are cultivating inclusion and harnessing the power of our diversity. You must vote Labour or your a racist, homophobic, gender-phobic white supremacist (or a gammon). ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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Polarbear wrote: | Vote Labour?
If they actually learn what went wrong they might have a chance.
Regurgitating the 'everyone who doesn't agree with us is a racist' or we need more blacks/homosexuals/Asians/women/gays/lesbians/anyone but white males isn't going to endear them to large swathes of the country.
If they get someone as leader who picks the best people for the jobs irrespective of their colour or who they snog then they have a chance.
It isn't going to happen though, they will have fanfares when the next black lesbian gender neutral illiterate idiot becomes a shadow minister.
Look at us, we are cultivating inclusion and harnessing the power of our diversity. You must vote Labour or your a racist, homophobic, gender-phobic white supremacist (or a gammon). |
Again, too late to influence the brexit trade and other negotiations, all the power is with the politicians, and not with the electorate, and by the time the electorate does get to have some sort of say, it'll be over and done with. The government have that much of a majority, and no credible opposition, they can literally act like a dictatorship. Whilst in one sense it's good to have a decisive direction to be going in, unfortunately, the government has got too much of a majority. As I said, suck it up, buy some popcorn, watch it from the sidelines, and, enjoy, where possible, there's bugger all else you can do about it now. ____________________ Beware what photos you upload, or link to on here, especially if you have family members on them |
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linuxyeti wrote: |
Means nothing, in 4 years time, the state of the global economy will almost certainly have changed again, it's a nothing story. |
It's a story that said what the IMF's opinion was in 2016, and what it is now. There is a difference. Yes, of course the global situation may change, but that is a different matter. |
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linuxyeti wrote: | Again, too late to influence the brexit trade and other negotiations, all the power is with the politicians, and not with the electorate, and by the time the electorate does get to have some sort of say, it'll be over and done with. The government have that much of a majority, and no credible opposition, they can literally act like a dictatorship. Whilst in one sense it's good to have a decisive direction to be going in, unfortunately, the government has got too much of a majority. As I said, suck it up, buy some popcorn, watch it from the sidelines, and, enjoy, where possible, there's bugger all else you can do about it now. |
The electorate has got what it wanted. |
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linuxyeti wrote: | Again, too late to influence the brexit trade and other negotiations, all the power is with the politicians, and not with the electorate, and by the time the electorate does get to have some sort of say, it'll be over and done with. The government have that much of a majority, and no credible opposition, they can literally act like a dictatorship. Whilst in one sense it's good to have a decisive direction to be going in, unfortunately, the government has got too much of a majority. As I said, suck it up, buy some popcorn, watch it from the sidelines, and, enjoy, where possible, there's bugger all else you can do about it now. |
U ok hun. |
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Not yet it hasn't. |
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Perhaps we all celebrated too soon.
The Lords are still trying to stop Brexit.
https://home.bt.com/news/uk-news/mps-to-consider-amendments-to-pms-brexit-deal-after-defeats-in-lords-11364426844770
I especially like the one that doesn't want us to stick two fingers up at the European Courts.
It followed three defeats on Monday on the rights of EU workers legally residing in the UK to have physical proof of their right to remain and the power of courts to depart from European Court of Justice rulings.
Ah well. I'm sure the unelected house will call it their democratic duty (tm Jo Swinson) to protect us from ourselves. ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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Sometimes the Lords look at something, decide it's shit, throw it back and then MPs sometimes go "oh yeah! let's try again" that's how it's meant to work
This is not one of those times ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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bhinso wrote: | linuxyeti wrote: | Again, too late to influence the brexit trade and other negotiations, all the power is with the politicians, and not with the electorate, and by the time the electorate does get to have some sort of say, it'll be over and done with. The government have that much of a majority, and no credible opposition, they can literally act like a dictatorship. Whilst in one sense it's good to have a decisive direction to be going in, unfortunately, the government has got too much of a majority. As I said, suck it up, buy some popcorn, watch it from the sidelines, and, enjoy, where possible, there's bugger all else you can do about it now. |
U ok hun. |
Yes darling, never better, but why people are still posting to this thread is beyond me, anything that gets voted down in the house of lords, is really nothing more than just theatre, the government has too big a majority to pay too much attention to the lords, they will find a way to get through what they want. And looking at labour's leadership campaign, there'll be no effective opposition for years to come, perhaps even as many as 15 ! ____________________ Beware what photos you upload, or link to on here, especially if you have family members on them |
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jnw010 wrote: | linuxyeti wrote: | ... why people are still posting to this thread is beyond me..... |
The thread title is "Brexit: What do you think will happen?"
Not, "will it happen at all" or "how can it be stopped".
The consequences are still unknown at this point and there's still lots to speculate on.
The UK vote to leave was a complete shock to the EU, the fact that we're actually going through with it even more so (other countries have had leave votes and not left). Will this be the beginning of the end for the EU project? Presently I think it will continue on, but if another country wants to leave within the next few years? I think the EU will recognise that threat and accelerate integration and remove more powers from nation states effectively locking them in.
I think Brexit has far wider reaching implications than just those for us in the UK. |
Speculate all you like, it will matter not 1 jot, the government is in such a strong position in parliament, it doesn't need to worry about pleasing the electorate, it will do what it wants, whether you, I or the electorate in general like it or not. Best you can do is deal what affects you during and after the process.
The vote being a shock, and, subsequently us leaving, also being a shock, is, to put it bluntly, irrelevant. ____________________ Beware what photos you upload, or link to on here, especially if you have family members on them |
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Posted: 15:39 - 22 Jan 2020 Post subject: |
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bhinso wrote: | linuxyeti wrote: | Speculate all you like, it will matter not 1 jot, the government is in such a strong position in parliament, it doesn't need to worry about pleasing the electorate, it will do what it wants, whether you, I or the electorate in general like it or not. |
Whose fault is that?
The answer is Labour's. For failing to provide viable opposition.
The worrying thing is that from the ongoing leadership vote, it doesn't appear to have learnt anything. Apparently it is still more important to virtue signal than get the right person in. |
I agree, and, looking at the leadership contenders, it will be at least 10, or even 15 years before any meaningful opposition exists.. ____________________ Beware what photos you upload, or link to on here, especially if you have family members on them |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 4 years, 94 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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