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https://www.bbc.com/news/business-51492694
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Isn't it a bit ironic, we have apparently left something that governed with us as a non elected body, only to, be governed, by, another non elected body, well, Dominic Cummings, predominently? I don't remember his name being on the ballot paper?
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| Polarbear wrote: | | bhinso wrote: |
The French wouldn't let us back in. |
France will be a basket case like Greece well before that. They'd have us, well our money, in a second because Germany is going to get pissed off paying for everything at sometime. |
Indeed. I think they'd have just London back if they could, they don't give a damn about the British people. I don't think the EU gives much of a damn about people generally. Just as long as their misguided project stays on track.
Do you know, I think it just possible that the EU inadvertently unites the people of Europe in a way they never intended. A much better way.
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Meanwhile: by the sea, Mr. Todd, that's the life I covet!
Enter reality:
| Quote: | Under 10m boats, which account for 80% of all UK vessels, are being forced to use the Catch Recording App in a bid to collect more detailed information on how much fish is being caught by small-scale fishermen.
Those that do not use it risk a criminal record and fines up to £100,000.
The Coastal Producers Organisation, representing close to 280 fishermen who operate out of under 10m boats, said the threat of criminalisation was a danger to the future of fishing communities.
"Just when the UK's fleet of long-suffering day boat fishermen were expecting to finally catch a break with a prospective Brexit bonus, instead they're getting torpedoed by the MMO, which has randomly introduced its Catch App," chief executive Jim Pettipher told the PA news agency.
"No other boats under 10m in Europe are subject to this regime, nor even in Scotland or Wales. It's madness."
"At the very moment when we have left the EU and its real or imagined burdens, the government is implementing the biggest piece of red tape seen by the industry.
"This is not an EU decision, this is a UK decision. You couldn't make it up." |
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Certainly not his ^ way 
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| cdlxxvi wrote: | Meanwhile: by the sea, Mr. Todd, that's the life I covet!
Enter reality:
| Quote: | Under 10m boats, which account for 80% of all UK vessels, are being forced to use the Catch Recording App in a bid to collect more detailed information on how much fish is being caught by small-scale fishermen.
Those that do not use it risk a criminal record and fines up to £100,000.
The Coastal Producers Organisation, representing close to 280 fishermen who operate out of under 10m boats, said the threat of criminalisation was a danger to the future of fishing communities.
"Just when the UK's fleet of long-suffering day boat fishermen were expecting to finally catch a break with a prospective Brexit bonus, instead they're getting torpedoed by the MMO, which has randomly introduced its Catch App," chief executive Jim Pettipher told the PA news agency.
"No other boats under 10m in Europe are subject to this regime, nor even in Scotland or Wales. It's madness."
"At the very moment when we have left the EU and its real or imagined burdens, the government is implementing the biggest piece of red tape seen by the industry.
"This is not an EU decision, this is a UK decision. You couldn't make it up." |
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What are the sources for these quotes? |
Do you care? Time to stop feeding the troll.
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| bhinso wrote: | | cdlxxvi wrote: | Meanwhile: by the sea, Mr. Todd, that's the life I covet!
Enter reality:
| Quote: | Under 10m boats, which account for 80% of all UK vessels, are being forced to use the Catch Recording App in a bid to collect more detailed information on how much fish is being caught by small-scale fishermen.
Those that do not use it risk a criminal record and fines up to £100,000.
The Coastal Producers Organisation, representing close to 280 fishermen who operate out of under 10m boats, said the threat of criminalisation was a danger to the future of fishing communities.
"Just when the UK's fleet of long-suffering day boat fishermen were expecting to finally catch a break with a prospective Brexit bonus, instead they're getting torpedoed by the MMO, which has randomly introduced its Catch App," chief executive Jim Pettipher told the PA news agency.
"No other boats under 10m in Europe are subject to this regime, nor even in Scotland or Wales. It's madness."
"At the very moment when we have left the EU and its real or imagined burdens, the government is implementing the biggest piece of red tape seen by the industry.
"This is not an EU decision, this is a UK decision. You couldn't make it up." |
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What are the sources for these quotes? |
The New European Not that they are biased.
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/fishermen-complain-about-catch-recording-app-1-6510135
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| MCN wrote: | It's frightening that there are still folk predicting how things are going to go.
I want one look into this crystal ball. Just one look. |
Anyone can predict doom and gloom. They don't even have to get it right. Harder is making a positive contribution to the future.
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| Polarbear wrote: | | bhinso wrote: | What are the sources for these quotes? |
The New European Not that they are biased. |
They don't say that the data rules for what has to be declared came in about 8 years ago, only apply to inshore boats under 10m, and the app to declare catch replaces paper records which needed to be written anyway, and that this will improve montioring and recording as well as taking less time to do.
Edit: Here you, from Hansard 06 February 2020 (Volume 671):
Ruth Jones (Newport West) (Lab): This Government have made much of the fact that we are leaving the EU and all its bureaucratic processes, but only to replace it with the catch app, a far more complex system for smaller fishing boats. Will the Secretary of State instruct the Marine Management Organisation to change the new catch app and remove the risk of criminality, which is causing so much anxiety for fishers in our coastal communities?
The Minister of State, Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (George Eustice): I have met officials on that matter. The reason we introduced the catch app is that, if we want to improve our management of the inshore fleet and offer fishermen, say, three months’ catch opportunities at a time, or even move to an effort-based regime, we need better, more accurate catch data. Those rules already apply to the over-12 metres and will in future apply to the under-12s as well.
Answer to written questions:
https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-answers-statements/written-question/Commons/2020-02-06/13560/
https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-answers-statements/written-question/Commons/2020-02-06/13561/
https://www.parliament.uk/business/publications/written-questions-answers-statements/written-question/Commons/2020-02-06/13564/
More interest:
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2020-01-24.7676.h
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2019-12-19.238.h&p=24933
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2020-02-12/debates/FA90A84D-5479-4475-9420-6330B60AB0FC/UKFisheries
There's loads of stuff out there about all sorts of things if you fish for it.
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EU-paid trolls just whine about stuff:
| cdlxxvi wrote: | Meanwhile: by the sea, Mr. Todd, that's the life I covet!
Enter reality:
| Quote: | Under 10m boats, which account for 80% of all UK vessels, are being forced to use the Catch Recording App in a bid to collect more detailed information on how much fish is being caught by small-scale fishermen.
Those that do not use it risk a criminal record and fines up to £100,000.
The Coastal Producers Organisation, representing close to 280 fishermen who operate out of under 10m boats, said the threat of criminalisation was a danger to the future of fishing communities.
"Just when the UK's fleet of long-suffering day boat fishermen were expecting to finally catch a break with a prospective Brexit bonus, instead they're getting torpedoed by the MMO, which has randomly introduced its Catch App," chief executive Jim Pettipher told the PA news agency.
"No other boats under 10m in Europe are subject to this regime, nor even in Scotland or Wales. It's madness."
"At the very moment when we have left the EU and its real or imagined burdens, the government is implementing the biggest piece of red tape seen by the industry.
"This is not an EU decision, this is a UK decision. You couldn't make it up." |
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...and offer no solutions.
Whereas, back in the real world, real people with real concerns:
| MCN wrote: | We've not even began to discuss the economic effects of an end to fossil fuel use.
This is 100% going to happen bit we still treat it as some bridge we will cross when we get to it. |
...offer real solutions:
| MCN wrote: | Unless we start a proper WWIII. |
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